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PLEASE, if you have Astral, or even Etheric experience, please help me! I have been trying almost every night to get some sort of OBE for 3 and a half years! I've heard of some doing it in a week or even on their first try, but I have trouble even getting into the vibrational state.
I've tried the rope pull-out method for attemting seperation, the 'floating up' method, the rolling out method, and many other methods, and even just partial seperation, but I just cant do it! I'm starting to doubt I will ever be able to.
I follow different instructions and different methods, including personal experience from friends and how the Poppet teaches it. I tried the 7 step approach and I meditate for an hour before even attempting to get into a deeper trance. I've tried silence, white noise, calming music, meditation music, binaural beats, delta waves, and every other kind of beat or wave out there. The closest I've gotten the closest (the deepest trance) with guided meditation but the track brings you out of trance and I never have been able to get to that level of trance since. This was a year ago. I had the same amount of success a while later, about half a year ago, where I experienced my 2nd sleep paralysis. The first was 3 years ago, half a year after I began. The second one has remained the scariest moment in my life but I am still determined to seperate onto the Astral plane at least once in spite of it.
I know about chakras and am just now beginning conscious, deliberate work on them. This is because they *could* be a block on my achieving seperation. I have tried entering from lucid dreams, but i either fail to have them but remember I want to OBE, or have them but forget about OBE. I have tried ceremonial baths, different meditation, yoga, spiritual diets, trance, incence and no incence, and more. I have tried in the daytime; morning, noon, and night. I have tried at sunset and sunrise. I have tried on full moons, half moons, new moons, etc. I have tried with my windows open and closed. I have tried at dusk, midnight, witching hour, and dawn. I have tried with a lot of light, some light, very little light, and pitch black. I have tried laying North to South, South to North, East to West, etc. I have tried over-analyzing the process and just willing it to happen. I have tried with one or two others, and alone. I have tried in my own company and in a large group's. I have changed the setting. I have tried at the beach, the forest, a big city, low and high energy zones, in a spiritual protected area and not, outside, inside, on a roof, even underground in a cavern... its just EXTREMELY frustrating because I have worn thin almost every technique I know of. People say, figure out what is right for me, and I've tried for 3.5 years. I really want to achieve OBE, very very much. I've been trying for almost 4 years and I have run out of things to try. I've done so much research and learned so much and have read so many different accounts of AP and EP. If you know anything PLEASE help me. I can usually do things on my own but I am having so much trouble with this. I know things take time but I think after 4 years I should see some kind of result or easier trance or something, but it is still the same. It is very disheartening... Am I missing something? Is there information I should know but don't? Any new techniques? Is 4 years actually a reasonable time frame? I am looking for any sort of guidance or advice, in any amount. Even just a three or four word reply with another method of separation would help. Thank you for your time. Please feel free to ask any question.