Who is the man in a suit?

Whilst I would like to give my thought on dangers and safety of such practices i do believe Art gave a nice perspective on why you shouldn't treat these matters like a game. I will actually notate that it's a foolish thing to call this a game. But I will impose my thoughts on the experience as a whole and what this man in a suit is.

Astal projection - not to be confused with etheric projection or spiritual projection- is a projection of the subconscious mind into a space of existence beyond the immediate surrounding. You extend your mind to being beyond just yourself, but it still remains to be yourself. This awareness of the astral plane is a self contained other dimension conjured by your thoughts and subconscious mind. It is what you will it to be. The real danger lies within yourself. If you get lost and can't pull out of this state you are lost in your own mind. Refer back to what Art said on guide/sister safety.

This self self contained reality is not only what you make it out to be. There are beliefs and practices where people can reach out and touch into other's dimensions and interact and percieve and experience what the host does - for reference look at dream walking.

So what then is this experience the practitioner is having? Well the answer lies in what the author of the guided meditation said. Each room has a purpose. Different colours and designs have different meanings. This is the foundation of the experience. A self contained dimension or sub-space with ground rules set by the expected outcome before even going into it. You know what to look for. You know what to experience and as your subconscious mind reaches out you connect with, not just simply your own astral plane, but an astral world with a pre-determined design and purpose whose foundation is already laid.

So what then is the man in the suit? Keeping in line with the aforementioned, whoever came up with this "game" whether by intention or not, let seep in some darker aspects of their subconscious mind. Dark past, tucked away emotions, feelings, and memories that festers and gestates at the back of the mind that the person has not come to terms with. The dark side of one's self. These are still subconscious attributes that leak into the astral reality and manifest. Likely the creator did not understand what the man in the suit was or did not want to come to terms with it. Thus feeding it power with fear and other unsettling emotions. Giving it more stability to exist in the self contained world possibly to a state of intelligent sentience. Then there is the possibility that the creator simply didn't care and knew what (s)he was doing and spread the idea of the man in the suit and his dangers anyways.

Time goes on. Stories get told. People all over commit to this meditation tapping into the world with their astral conjurations. The story of the man in the suit continues because he is there. He has become part of that world and a little bit of each practitioner gets infused with him, much like what certain rooms are. But you can't talk about the doing this "game" without giving warning of this man and what rooms to look out for. That's a key point. What if someone were to do this with no conscious awareness of the danger rooms and no awareness of the man in the suit?

Danger rooms are no different than the man. Why would you be scared of a room of clocks in fear of getting lost? Now you are because you were told that you may be lost and now you've fed power to that room. Now you have set the stage before your journey begins. Had you not have known that detail it's completely possible you could have simply conjured your own world and not tap into that world as described by the original post. Given that, without foreknowledge of the man in the suit it's also plausible you would not have an interaction with him because he's not part of your subconscious expected outcome. Although, that's not to say you would be free of negative embodiments and rooms. You do have your own self-imposed dangers of your own design whether you wanted that or not. But with all foreknowledge, you have a world with dangers that are there pre-existing and what you bring to the table.

But remember, that astral projection and the astral planes are a projection of your subconscious mind and a reality of your design. You can easily make changes and shape the world to satisfy your need to feel safe and comfortable. But ask yourself; if you go on a journey of self discovery and bend the world to your happy delights, do you really come out learning from the experience; or have you given yourself a false sense of security fabricated around the idea of keeping your own personal "clock room," man in the suit, etc. bottled and hidden away so you don't have to confront your darkness? (Psychosis)

Thank you so much Artindark, your wealth of information was more than I could’ve hoped for. I’d also like to apologize as I had no idea that this “game” was this dangerous. No excuses, just plain ignorance on my behalf.
Your explanation of the sitters role makes a lot of sense, but I’m curious as to how far the implication rule goes. I know from lucid dream practice how the slightest negative thought can make it go haywire, and how difficult it can be to control that. My main question is what exactly IS this practice? Are these areas part of any objective reality or are they all subjective?(especially intrigued by this one). How does one safely guide someone when their brains may come up with something unexpectedly?
I’m sorry, I do have a few more questions. Any answers from anyone would be very much appreciated, as I believe lack of information is very dangerous, as shown from earlier and I seek to know the truth behind this.
What do you believe the higher self to be? Is it a link of sorts to heaven? Is it you in idealized form? Or is it some other thing I’m not aware of. I have heard differing explanations, and I’m curious of yours
You also seem to know much about the clock room. What exactly is it? Why does it exist?
My last question relates to the original post. You say the these beings are a what rather than a who. So are they malevolence embodied? Are they also a subjective creature? How can a what think like us, as wouldn’t that attribute identify it and give it a who? Why do they do what they do? There must be some kind of motivating factor, so why?
Again, thank you so much for what you have already said. I never expected to get this much information here. I still maintain a certain amount of doubt over everything, but I will attempt to prove what you have said through personal experiences and/or collections of more data

Quick note, I did not see vanity’s post which answers a few of the questions I asked.
I also have reason to believe that the man in the suit lives beyond a subjective conscious, because (however weak of a reason) I know from a friend (anecdotal I know) that she had her boyfriend do it and she had never had any issues with the “game” herself, despite reading about the man in the suit on the site. Her boyfriend had a pretty messed up experience although he had no idea the man in the suit existed. So while I do agree that information like this could often lead to people seeing said negative energy (ex. Mirrors in dreams always show your worst fear) I don’t believe it is the case with this

Your point is exactly why I made the explanation on how it is a world on its own subject to the blending of your own consciousness and that of others who have interactions with it. I also explained it as (two) parallel worlds of similar design. One the world as designed and tapped into by the many people visiting it. The alternative being of your own design. The latter being the likely answer for your friend's boyfriend's experience. He didn't experience the man in the suit because he was able to separate the predetermined expectation from his own design when he had the experience. With this clear separation he had his own world separate from the original design and thus had a whole different experience. Though even as you say his experience wasn't without its problems which is to be expected. I would say that he had enough thought control to make the world and go there without the original design aspects intruding, but not too much control that it was a perfect experience wich allowed his subconscious to fill the rooms. Which all of your questions and this were previously explained. Maybe not in the most obvious of ways, sure. Even though it is still a very strong likelihood that knowing the details can have an imprint, it does not necessarily mean that will be from case to case - as expressed by your example. Think upg versus pcpg, but a slight twist on the latter.

If there's any other questions you have, ask away.

The closest thing I experienced to this was a few years where I was experiencing some dreams as a result to being creatively stunted. It started with a few dreams where I saw a man in a suit and he did guide me through my own conscious promising me that I would be able to unlock a room to my own manifestation in time. I always assumed it was my ego taking a form but as I experienced other entities with names and my personified version of wisdom warned me about his intention I was always wary. There also seemed to be an energy of sexual tension when around this being. Not sure if I'm experiencing something completely different, but that was what came to mind.

Benwrighta, I am sorry for the late response. I just saw your questions, I will have to tackle the separately and one by one or my post will become too long and too complicated and scattered across any fields of science and spirituality.

First of all, you asked about the implications for people in relation with the so called game. This will strongly depend on the subject and the other person involved. Since, I personally will not be able to evaluate either or any level of functioning, I will have to just try address this in more general sense.

Not two human brains are identical, even though they are made from same physical/biochemical building blocks. The reason for that is that the connectivity of the neuronal pathways can differ greatly between individuals. Some people simply have such type of brains that they can daydream with open eyes and some do not. Some people can be hypnotized some cannot does not matter what you do and what method you use. This is because their brain is unable to function this way physiologically. For such type of individuals such practices are useless but also harmless. Simply because they cannot exist in the state required for them to be in harms way. The general rule is that the more one can daydream, the easier they can reach some lighter level of trance or to be hypnotized. Such people also are more open to suggestions and affirmations naturally. These practices are most dangerous for the because they have the right type of brain.

There is something else, which most people are not aware of. I did an extensive course on brain neuroscience, and technically all of reality we perceive through all our senses is entirely subjective simply because it is an internal construct of something external. Now, if we are to study 10 brains of average individuals more or less they will perceive reality very similarly, not identically, at least while in beta state of brain functioning. However, if you decide to study the brain of someone suffering with psychosis and are having break through episode, their reality will seem very objective to them, but it might not reflect the external reality in full. Why is that? It is because as I mentioned the internal reality is a 100 percent reconstruct of the brain's network of neurons. If one of these networks have been damaged, you might start seeing things that are not there or hear things. These things will look very real to you, but they are simply product of your internal reality, and are modified reconstruct of the external reality. In this case the difference between objective and subjective comes from not precise enough reconstruct, without interference or error, of the external reality. Something becomes enough objective if let say other few brains reconstructed similar replica of external reality. However, if you are to study how physical laws, and quantum laws work you would realize than nothing is actually objective and experienced reality depends on what tool/device picks what information in what given time and on what scale. The brain assumes that what feels real and is experienced as real is ought to be real and acts accordingly.

In same way, during let say our baseline, if we pick up different participants in said game, what they will perceive first will depend first on if they can at all function in altered states of consciousness and for how long and how deep they could go. As the time and the depth increase so is the danger. Anyone who only enters this state asleep is generally more safe, but not protected from nightmares at later stage. Additionally, have you noticed that in physical life there are patterns and sequences in nature that repeat, simply because they are functional, practical and symetric? For example the Fibonacci Spiral, sequence? This is because life is self-organizing, but even not living things organize by the laws of physics. In same way these levels have their own laws and rules, but they are not as obvious or set in stone as physical laws. For example, I keep seeing that people keep thinking about Who is the Hat Man. This is an error of perception. A Human will naturally assume that anything that shape of a humanoid is ought to be human, and it is a who and he has secrets to be revealed. These beings are not human, they are also not set in this shape. They assume it for different reasons. They can be just as well a black fog like mass of something. They simply assume that shape because human react to it better because it is more familiar. Nothing in these worlds/planes of existence should be assumed to be objective and true in form as assumed. They have long realized that assuming this shape gives them more attention from said subject. I usually do not count on my spiritual senses when it comes to details on those levels. I use more my perception of energy and intuition to navigate there than what I hear, see or perceive. The truth is that beings on those levels are very fluid. They have preferred form, but many of them are not attached to their form in same way as we living humans are attached to our physical bodies. They simply use what works for them. Trying to identify them with perceived form can be a very costly mistake one can do.

In same way trying to name them only helps humans to identify them, when talking about them between themselves as humans. They have the ability to shift as your internal landscape, energy or emotions shift. This is why not everybody perceives same things because you filter this experience eventually through your brain and physical body. However, most people experience them in similar fashion this is because of expectation from both sides involved the spiritual beings and humans. Both sides follow the natural patterns of their own planes of existence throughout contact, but again trying to analyze this experience logically is very hard and can lead to wrong conclusions. Changes from both sides can shift the experience.

The man in the suit is ( you ) but he's the worst version of you
And he does follows you while you keep opening doors , every time you slow down he gets closer to you , as for the clocks doors , it can traps you and you wouldn't feel a thing
It's the part of your brain that is lost , it's a forbidden area , no trace passing and basically of you stayed there for a short time , you'll stop thinking about anything and stay there lost with a blank mind

Artindark, I find your views on the Shadow Beings very informative, thank you. I have a great interest in these beings. I first experienced them when I was a young child, the Hat Man. I can still see it in my mind, the room, the being and the emotions. Throughout my life I have seen them in many places and doing many different things. Mostly I just see them watching, such as the Hat Man did. Sometimes I have seen them moving between rooms and up and down stairs, once I awoke and one was hovering over me watching. They have never outright threatened me in any way. Your insight helps in my slow reasearch on them.

this is very interesting.
you see i once battled an entity that fits this topics description and i won but i woke up with a bloody nose and i was very sick for 3 weeks and bc i have previously summoned a demon days beforehand i thought it was the demon but get this

i astral projected last weekend and i left my room only to see a man with a suit and a hat his legs were very long like unnaturally long and he did not have anything to say nor did i get bad vibrations from him but just because he was right outside of my door i decided to return back to my body.

i am a very powerful person i can banish an entity stronger than i am without diety help and im assuming he knew not to hurt me but i could be wrong i dont know who he is or his motives and i believe he is the same man i have battled and claimed victory.
let me know your thoughts