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Re: God,religions & witchcraf
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Post # 31
all i have to say is that yes humans created witchcraft but magick is and has always been around.....and for the religion part of it....we all follow our own belif system and however we see it.....IT IS THERE!
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Re: God,religions & witch
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Post # 32
Do God (Allah) exists?
Where is this God staying in this whole universe?

Yes. I prefer to think of God like Stephen Hawking and Einstein think of God-- the substance and laws of the universe, just that. So, It (not He) is not "in" the universe but is the universe-- from every atom to every galaxy, there is God.

On the other hand, when my mom became a Charismatic Christian, people would sometimes come over to our house and pray, speak in tongues, fall to the ground seizing and screaming-- and I definitely felt something there, a very very dense mass of psychic energy. So, sorry to offend anyone, but I'm pretty sure that God exists too. Even if only a thoughtform.

Is witchcraft God's Creation as well? Why God Create witchcraft?
At the level that all things come from God, yes... psychic energy is God's creation, awareness is God's creation... but, the word 'witchcraft' makes me think of more of tribal mentalities, people watching the world and trying to make sense of it (presuming that it makes sense :-P). So then they think of "As above, so below", of rituals, of correspondents... but a lot of The Craft seems more a social invention-- something we made of God's creations, but while it "feeds" back to the source it's not straight from It.

It's like, say that God made man: so did It make nations and governments? Can you see God in the endless paperwork and the votes and revolutions? Maybe, but I think maybe not, because that's a different level of reality... I could even say, an illusion.

It's an illusion that feeds back to something more grounded, and since God is everything then everything includes those illusions. But, I don't believe God made witchcraft in the same direct way It "made" most other things. So...

Do God's will let us do bad (evil) or good magic, conjurer, sorcerers what ever it is named using it what way we likes?
Obviously yes. There are many sites and magic books that include curses, muti killings continue, if you consider that magick comes from the heart there are many people who hate other people and send them bad vibes with their thoughts and feelings (evil magick.) If God didn't allow it, they simply would not be there.

But, I believe that if we align our own will to the universal will, then we would not do such things. "Evil", to me, is only ignorance. If we had a wider perspective-- knew the consequences of hurting others, or understood why others behave in ways that hurt us, we'd still use magic however we like... but what we like to do would be influenced by this new perspective.

That said, the perspective of black magicians isn't invalid. Some people's definition of evil is "unconventional", "unpretentious", or anything that serves the ego or personal will rather than God or the will of the universe.

If they align with their inner divinity, their personal will, and choose to use it for self-development (that is, personal gain,) or to express their honest dissent to conventional society, or to specific people-- I think that's perfectly within their rights.
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Re: God,religions & witchcraf
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Post # 33
I am going to agree with the wisdom of the Crone. I do not wish to steal her answers, however I do fully agree. So to save the time from re-writing them or re-wording them, I will quote her wise words of wisdom in her answer:

[quote] Does God exist?

How can you Not believe that a Creator exists?
Look at the world around you, at the miracles of life.


Where is this God staying in this whole universe?

God/dess IS the Universe. The is nothing that does not contain a part of deity, including ourselves. "Thou art God." EVERYTHING is connected thru this.

Why did God Create witchcraft?

People created Witchcraft as a way of connecting with that God/dess within.

Does God's will let us do bad (evil) or good magic, ...


Some things are destiny. Without Darkness there can be no Light,
and Without Light, Darkness cannot exist. The Universe is a balancing act. Black/White-Yin/Yang-Good/Evil.
Then there is free will. We were given the ability to Chose for ourselves what we do, What we embrace. You do good because you CHOSE to do good. You do evil because you CHOSE to do so. The choice and the consequences of that choice are yours.
CM [/quote]
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Re: God,religions & witchcraf
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Post # 34
The god that no one sees is there and he allows us to do whatever we please because if he didnt want us to then he wouldn't give it to us.

Like witchcraft. Withccraft , i beleive, is God's form of letting us understand the balance of the worlds more and bend things to our will while on earth.

or maybe were just an experiment of the GOd we beleive in? who knows? any thoughts?
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Re: God,religions & witchcraf
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 35
Now my questions are: Do God (Allah) exists?

*Why yes, of course "god" exists we would not be here if
something had not set the ball in motion.

Where is this God staying in this whole universe?

*"God" is everywhere in everything, everything comes from
what "god" created including the things that man has made.

Is witchcraft God's Creation as well?

*Witchcraft is the art of manipulating what "god" has created.
Therefore he allowed the craft to happen, just as he allows
all things to happen.

Why God Create witchcraft?

*Wouldn't you get bored being the only one manipulating what
you created? Witchcraft brings you closer to "god". You can
not practice witchcraft without seeing "god" or hearing "god".

Do God's will let us do bad (evil) or good magic, conjurer, sorcerers what ever it is named using it what way we likes?

*No matter how good at witchcraft you become if you ask for
something that "god" doesn't agree with then "god's" answer
will be no and it is final. Now don't get me wrong "god" has
a sence of hummor and does like to watch us get into
trouble. "God" might let you have fun for a time but if you
don't "grow up" you could get "grounded"
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Re: God,religions & witchcraf
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 36
Why do we learning witchcraft?

*There are many reasons why people learn the craft. Some are
positive reasons and some are negative. As with everything
there is always a balance.

How far can we reach with witchcraft?

*We can do so much with the craft that it could be endless,
however there will always be "god" to have the final say.

What benefits we get from magic?

*The benefits we get from magic depends on your point of view
as to what is benefital. They can range from the spiritual to
the power people feel. Both can be taken either way.

How does magic work?

*Magic works because "god" allows it to. "God" is magic and to
understand how it works would also mean to understand "god".

Why does magic works?

*Same answer as above just replace "how" with "why".

When does magic work and when it doesn't work?

*Magic works when you have practiced it and you have an
understanding of the laws and the basic operations. To do this
one must meditate. Through meditation you will reach
enlightenment.
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Re: God,religions & witchcraf
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Post # 37
I dont believe in this God. But I believe that Magic or Witchcraft was created for a reason. I believe that back in the old days before medicine, weapons and other nessary things for the world were invented, we used magic insted. It would make sence that we were born with these powers because back then we needed them to survive it's just in human nature to be able to do magic. Though now that our culture is more developed magic is not nessary to all because we have medicine and other things like guns to protect us. It would make sense to me that this is why in other parts of the world magic is used regularly because they are not as developed as America or Europe etc other places that are modern. I think that we who still use magic are the lucky ones because we can heal ourselves and others with out the need of unnatural medicines.
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Re: God,religions & witchcraf
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Post # 38
hi! everyone

do you know that there is a reason to our natural powers, the first creation
of God are the angels and they really love them but there is one who is gifted of near unlimited powers(nearsimilar to God) that is archangel lucifer who rebel against him for his pride that he can able to be god and he decieved 1/3 of the angels to join who became demons after the long war and some of this demons recieved chance that is why man created and don't confuse if we have natural powers it is simple we are the sons and dauhters of God and we posses some of his powers.
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Re: God,religions & witchcraf
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Post # 39
well, you wnt to know whether god created magic? well he did, not that i beleive in god, but those who believed that god created the world must know that magic has been created by god for it existed long before humans but simply at that time know one discovered it. my religion is witchcraft and no one can change that... thats all but remember that god does not exist...
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Re: God,religions & witchcraf
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Post # 40
i respect ur opinion but without God we are nothing.
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