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Instinct to stay alive has every people since they are born untill they die! That means that everybody has wisdom? Wrong, old people really have true wisdom because they experienced a lot of things in life and they know what is best to do:) so wisdom is the result of living, experiencing everything that life has prepared for you! Children are not born with wisdom, kids do not know anything about taking decisions and things like this! I personally disagree with you, sorry...
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Re: Knowledge and wisdom.
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Post # 8

Apparently what I meant was not made clear enough for you, no reason to get excited and start deciding someone is wrong so quickly.

By "Instincts to live..." I meant instincts we are literally born with such as suckling and grabbing what touches our hands. Most infants eventually grow out of these instincts as they get a bit older.

And obviously you didn't realize that I was the one who originally said people are born with knowledge and wisdom acquired by attention is a choice.
Ex. "You are born with some knowledge, in other words instincts to stay alive."

You were the one who originally said wisdom is what you're born with which you just disagreed with.
Ex. "I also believe that wisdom is the quality you are born with..."

I appreciate you however, eventually agreeing with my original statements. Even though you thought you were effectively arguing it shows you still learned something. :)

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Re: Knowledge and wisdom.
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Post # 9
I would disagree with both views. You are not born with wisdom, nor is it aquired through time and experience. Wisdom is when you stop listening to emotions and desires and start listening to that inner voice, that higher self within. When that happens, young or old, you will speak with wisdom.

Oh, and those that have it don't make a big deal out of it. "Chopping wood and carrying water".

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Shawn.
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Re: Knowledge and wisdom.
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Post # 10
I agree with Shawn. Wisdom comes with experience and should be tempered with a dose of common sense and logic.

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Re: Knowledge and wisdom.
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I believe everybody's opinion should be respected here as this thread discusses the definition of a term which here we found out to be controversial and debatable.

My thoughts are similar to those of FolishaCole. According to my definition Wisdom engages in the way we use our knowledge. Its epitome is distinction. Differentiation of right from wrong. Beneficial from injurious . Preparedness from deception.

Also, ESK, I couldn't notice this more than that so I have to ask: How exactly do you agree with Shawn if you say wisdom comes with experience and he said this, and I quote: "...nor is it aquired through time and experience." ? To me it sounds more like a contradiction.
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Re: Knowledge and wisdom.
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Post # 12
Eaura I'm on iPhone and I didn't read the 'nor'. Should probably get my eyes tested. Ahem ;)
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Re: Knowledge and wisdom.
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Post # 13
A a bit an explination as to what I meant by that, just so we're on the same page, I know older people that have less wisdom than a pile of horse manure, and I know young people that are wise beyond their years. Age is not the direct cause of wisdom. Neither is learned behavior. They can absolutely influence wisdom, but that influence can be rejected by the individual just as easily as it can be accepted.

Of course, this is all just my viewpoint, and I reserve the right to be wrong or change it at any time. :)

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Shawn.
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Re: Knowledge and wisdom.
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Post # 14
Ha ha!! There are also some people that are just inherently stupid for whom no amount of experience will change.
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Re: Knowledge and wisdom.
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I never said that wisdom is gained through life and experience, that was someone else. I said wisdom comes through the choice of being attentitive. In other words, paying attention and learning from your surroundings.

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Perhaps it is a good time to cover the symbolism of the tarot card The Hermit. IX.

The Hermit stands alone wearing a grey cloak with a lantern in one hand and a staff in the other. He has retired to a lonely mountain top to listen to the voice of his higher self, and understand the divine wisdom of the unconscious. His lamp contains the six pointed seal of Solomon, symbolizing spiritual light, knowledge, lighting his way. The staff in his left hand symbolises power and attainment, and the unconscious mind.

The snow at his feet represents the heights of spiritual attainment. He wears the grey cloak of invisibility. His secrets are not for everyone, only for those earnestly seeking them and those willing to climb the mountainous heights to wisdom.

Brightest blessings
Dark Moon
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