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Re: charm against daemons
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon

Aleister Crowley did not write the freaking Necronomicon. It was written by Lovecraft under the name of Abdul Alhazred. The work is very possibly influenced by Crowley, but so is my Book of Shadows and he ain't the author of that, either.
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Re: charm against daemons
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Post # 6

Dear god, why do people insist on posting their delusions here. I know that this is a site about magic but its getting kind of sad

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Re: charm against daemons
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You're not alone in that feeling, cynic. It's a fine work that appears to be based on actual magickal knowledge, but Werewolf: the Apocalypse is based on actual myths about shapeshifters. If you pretend that W:tA books are a guide to werewolf culture it means you're a fluffy troo were idiot, but if you pretend the Neconomicon is an actual grimoire it means you're some spooky magickal genius who works with demons.

The Necronomicon is a work of fiction. Fiction . Fiction as in "absolutely fake."
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Re: charm against daemons
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The necronoicon is a fictional grimoire. However the spirits in there are egregores of great power. You shouldnt go messing around with that stuff. The incantations can work but they are chaotic and dangerous.
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Re: charm against daemons
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Post # 9
i feel i have posted one charm i thought interesting, from a book i was looking through. plenty of narrow-minded individuals especially considering the circumstances. one must also understand that of all things i could have posted i chose this one `spell` i feel this can be usefull to anyone.. and as far as i can trust Aleister Crowley is a master of deceit.. trust what you will..
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Re: charm against daemons
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The Necronomicon is not a work of Crowley.
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Re: charm against daemons
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actually it is possible that crowley did a version. There are many versions and translations of the necronomicon not only by lovecraft, but by others such as dr. John dee, simon, al azir (Not sure of the spelling there) and many others. however the hp lovecraft version does come off as fiction compared to all of tghe other versions.
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Re: charm against daemons
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Post # 12
i never said it was, but my source was from crowley`s version..
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Re: charm against daemons
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 13
I went and did a bit of research on the book that the OP is apparently referring to. The book was not written by Crowley but appears to be a more recent mishmash of some things from Crowley, some from Lovecraft's Necronomicon and a bunch of other stuff that has no relationship to either of them. It would be easy to assume that Crowley was the author since his name is on the front of the book, but he was not. This is something glommed together by an editor using Crowley's name.

I also found this which further debunks the claim that Crowley had also obtained his own Necronomicon at the same time that Lovecraft did:

Myth: Lovecraft (or his wife, Sonia) was associated with Aleister Crowley

Again, we have the “Simon” edition of the Necronomicon to thank for this misconception. The book implies some sort of vague connection between Lovecraft and Crowley:

That a reclusive author of short stories who lived in a quiet neighborhood in New England and the manic, infamous Master Magician who called the world his home, should have somehow met in the sandy wastes of some forgotten civilization seems incredible. That they should both have become Prophets and Forerunners of a New Aeon of Man’s history is equally, if not more, unbelievable. Yet, with H.P. Lovecraft and Aleister Crowley, the unbelievable was a commonplace of life. These two men, both acclaimed as geniuses by their followers and admirers, and who never actually met, stretched their legs across the world, and in the Seven League Boots of the mind they did meet, and on common soil . . . . Sumeria.

There’s that “recluse” myth popping up again... This is just the sort of vague implications that says nothing, but causes the reader to see something. In addition, Colin Low’s Necronomicon Anti-FAQ also infers a connection between Lovecraft and Crowley. This time, it’s Lovecraft’s wife, Sonia Greene:

In 1918 Crowley was in New York. As always, he was trying to establish his literary reputation, and was contributing to The International and Vanity Fair. Sonia Greene was an energetic and ambitious Jewish emigre with literary ambitions, and she had joined a dinner and lecture club called “Walker’s Sunrise Club” (?!); it was there that she first encountered Crowley, who had been invited to give a talk on modern poetry.... Crowley did not waste time as far as women were concerned; they met on an irregular basis for some months.

Once again, such claims are entirely unsubstantiated. Low also claims that Lovecraft had heard of the Necronomicon from Greene who had, in turn, heard of it from Crowley. This is a fortunate coincidence, since Lovecraft first mentions the Necronomicon in “The Hound,” which he wrote in mid-October 1921—only three months after having met Greene. However, Lovecraft first mentions Abdul Alhazred, the author of the Necronomicon, in “The Nameless City” (which he wrote in January 1921) a full six months before having met Greene. Still, all this is moot since Colin Low has openly admitted that his “Necronomicon Anti-FAQ,” like the book it discusses, is a hoax.
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Re: charm against daemons
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to be fair, while it is a work of fiction to a great degrea, sometimes fictional things can work magickal if theres enough energy put into it by the fans. For example: when I was young I used to pretend to be a pokemon trainer. I resently found that my old toy pokeball had a astral pokemon it in. It was created by the energy I put into the game as a child.

So if enough people believe the necromonicon to be true, parts of it will be given magickal qualties, just throw belief.
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