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Re: Fluff
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 37
"Fluff" as it is defined here, and to my experience, is someone who refuses to learn, preferring instead to view reality through rose colored glasses.

That is to say, rather than exploring the world, magic, and faith through logical thought processes they instead view it as they wish it to be.

This was aptly demonstrated by the reaction to Zebrah's suggestion that a fluff is someone who is unwilling to learn.

Rather than reading, comprehending, and reacting logically, the response was emotional and over-the-top because it was not what you wanted to hear.

Perceive reality how you wish it to be, if you'd like.But don't expect to be regarded with esteem for it.
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Re: Fluff
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Post # 38
Reality IS what I perceive. And don't get me wrong AwakeTooLong I don't believe in vampires and werewovles and such. But I do believe that reality bends to my will. I can control fire and air literally with my mind. But that doesn't mean that I can create thunderstorms or hurricanes. I am still working with it. I have read on here that people have tried controlling the elements but can't. But have they really tried? Dedicated months to the practice? My spirit guide tells me that everyone has at least one element. And that every one can control that element with their mind and spells work greater magic when their specific element is involved. I HAVE dedicated months to it and my patients is paying off. I am sorry if you don't believe me but that is your problem not mine. And like I said earlier I am not trying to recruit. I am only asking for what everyone is due: respect. And sure if someone picks up a book and reads it and then calls themselves knowledgeable than yeah that is stupid. But for those of us on here that really want to learn but perceive things differently then the rest please don't make fun of us. It is not right. I have been in magic for 7 years now and know quite a bit. Therefore I cannot be called a fluff. Not according to your definition anyway. But for the rest who THINK they know everything just because they read one book then yeah they are setting themselves up. Plus you also have to remember that these people you speak of will never change. The ones who think that true blood is real or twilight is real will never change. So why even bother? Some might think I fall into this category but all I am doing is just taking magic to the next level.
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Re: Fluff
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Post # 39
And answer this. 500 years ago the world believe that the earth was flat. That was pinnacle of science. Then they found out that it is round. You think magic is any different? We humans think we know everything but we can't. That is the only impossible thing in this world. We are always learning. So if you think that this is the pinnacle of magic why can't you be wrong? If those scientists were wrong about their craft what makes you think you have all the answers?
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Re: Fluff
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Post # 40

Has anyone noticed that most of the people that disagree with this post are ranked as Knowledgeable (yes, I know that their are a few exceptions)...and most of the people who agree with it are not ranked (therefore considered a "newbie" or "fluffy" by the site's ranking system? I'm not trying to argue anything and I'll keep my opinion on this topic to myself; I just found that little tidbit very interesting, I'll be on my way now. :)

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Re: Fluff
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Post # 41
i had an older account that was novice... then i got pissed at the site for being so trolly. so i deleted it. i just recently came back to start anew.
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Re: Fluff
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 42

The term fluff or fluffy is an old term that actually refers to those who only believe in the love and light, harm none ideas of magic. The full name being fluff bunny or fluffy bunnies.

It has only been in the last couple of years that on this site it has been used to describe all the role playing, no idea what actual magic can accomplish, magic has no limits, want to be a magical creature, not serious about the craft members. These folks are just role players or possibility dabblers depending on there actual ideas and actions.

I would personally like the term to stop being misused. I don't agree with the rating system on the site. I feel that if the word fluff is going to be used in the ranking then there should also be a role player and dabbler status.

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Re: Fluff
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Post # 43

Interesting post, Katie, about how the term is misused and what the actual meaning was. Thanks for that. :)

@Enchanter,

I sense that maybe you are talking from experience; and you sound quite so angry, as if somebody has called you a fluff yourself. Not saying they have, just what it seems like.

On some points I agree, some I disagree. I think the modern meaning of fluff, is somebody who is unwilling to learn (as Zeb said), and just wants a quick fix . Also those who say things that are absolutely ridiculous; such as 'I'm a vampire! I love to drink blood.' 'I am a fairymicroweretoaster.' and the list goes on.

Also, I think simply correcting people on facts that they have got wrong is fine. As long as they have actually got it wrong and there is science to prove what you are correcting them with is 100% true, then that is fine. Its simply informing a person that they are wrong, like when a student is incorrect on a maths sum in School.

In addition, I think that disagreements on chat makes for a good discussion- as long as people dont get too defensive and closed-minded about other people's views on their beliefs. I prefer to keep open minded, but if I do see somebody like: 'I'm a vampire!' I will certainly give my strong views on that or just give up and go to coven!

On the other hand, I agree on the point where you say when somebody does not agree on the common populace they are branded a fluff by other members with more of a good reputation and are well known- so people tend to agree with them more and do not stand up for whoever the other party is.

I'm sure you understand that many of us are very annoyed that our forums and chat gets polluted with actual fluff, not people just sharing their logical views.

As long as your views have a hint of logic, I wont complain. Unless I have something to add; but personally, I think we can all take something out of what others say, whether in disagreement or agreement.

I'd be very interested in seeing your reply and debating. :)

Be well,

Fallen. :)

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Re: Fluff
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 44
Thank you Katie. I was actually surprised when I came here and found the term "Fluffy" applied to "crazy" or "lost in imagination" or whatever as well.

@Enchanter18, they didn't believe the world was flat. That is largely a myth propagated because it is easier to fit into history books than the indepth explanation of common misunderstanding vs. more educated philosophy and science. However, for you, it was the proof that everything you perceive is correct... because you wanted it to be. Similarly, it is quite easy to watch a candle flame move while you focus on it, hoping dearly that you will control its motion, and decide that you succeeded... With out taking into account all other factors that impact the flame.

While their are Buddhist philosophies and other concepts that touch upon the idea that all that is exists simply because we imagine it to be, at the same time much of such thought is entirely self indulgent. It is simply easier to believe that something occurs because you wish it than to contemplate that you have little to no impact upon the grand scheme of things (extreme circumstances, for sure... but they illustrate the point).

Master yourself, and then you master the world around you. Isolate that which you desire and wish to be from the equation, factor in all other potential variables... And even then, all you may have left is a solid theory. This leaves much room for debate about what is possible and what isn't, I will give you that.

When you begin impacting weather on the scale of hurricanes I expect the world to be natural disaster free.

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Re: Fluff
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Post # 45
if people dont trust videos on the internet and stuff like that then why do most people say show me the proof. also if other people who say im sick of reading stuff bout werewolves and stuff could also click the x in the right hand corner instead of saying names or calling someone crazy.last thing, if we all have a right to believe in what we want why do people automatically tell others to not listen to people with this kind of belief, if they want to know more bout something let THEM and then let THEM decide if it sounds reasonable to them. instead of just saying dont listen to them, even though most people who say stuff like that dont even know anything bout the subject.
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Re: Fluff
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 46
Wulfgar, we all have the right to believe what ever we want... But we also have the right to steer impressionable folks who are genuinely seeking knowledge away from those who have a rather intense disregard for facts and logic.

Best to avoid the blind leading the blind.
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