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Re: Higher self
By: / Beginner
Post # 8
No need to reach you higher self. You are your own higher self!
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Re: Higher self
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Post # 9
Ur higher self is a part of ur energy which wants to help u.if u want spirit guides u should do guided meditation.then also it take long time to find right spirit guide for u.so dont feel discouraged just keep trying
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Re: Higher self
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 10
Rashnu. Viewing it as a seperate entity is wrong. You can't take a term and make up your own meaning. If you are using a term and you are attempting to accomplish a goal surrounding that term, then we should all be on the same page.

Some terms are controversial, yes, such as "black magick" and such because the color "black" has so many possible connections. But the higher Self is self explainatory. "Self" is "The total, essential, or particular being of a person; the individual" (freedictionary.com). It couldn't be more simply named.

I'm not trying to be mean. I'm just attempting to bring clarification of the definition. He obviously isn't getting anywhere believing that it is something he must "meet" with.

And Brysing, essentially it is the same idea. Your subconscious is on a more spiritual level than your conscious. And your "conscience" is the voice of your subconscious. Tapping into subconscious thought and learning to listen is no different than connecting to our higher self.

“Conscience is the voice of the soul; the passions are the voice of the body” Jean-Jacques Rousseau
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Re: Higher self
By: / Beginner
Post # 11
As I already clearly said... separate yet the same. A different level of consciousness not yet attainable. I no where stated it was an entirely separate being.

There are many, many people who share this view and work regularly to speak with this part of them and yes..it is a form of "meeting" them and is no different than getting in touch with any other part of yourself or consciousness. It's simply a different way of explaining the tapping into this side. I'm hoping we aren't hung up on one word here >.>

To say it is flat out wrong when this is a deeply personal belief that is different per person you meet is rather ignorant in my opinion and is no different than telling a person their path is wrong.

It's a different view, as I have stated already. There is no right or wrong answer to it. Only opinions, not facts.

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Re: Higher self
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Post # 12
I agree with raven
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Re: Higher self
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 13
higher self is always connected to us however, we are not always attuned to listen. the advice i wrote earlier is a method to attune your self to your spiritual self by way of denying your ego the simple pleasures.

Yes! I address my higher self as the third person (It feels right to me). Yes, I consider it to be the primary love of my life. Yes, I believe it to be pure energy that is an external chakra that is connected to me at all times. Yes, I consider my higher self to be my oversoul.

I understood what Rashnu meant.
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Re: Higher self
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 14
Forte and Rashnu. I am not saying that you are wrong for considering your Higher Self as a seperate but connected part of yourself. In technicality I can talk about my heart as a seperate entity without reference to the rest of my body, but I can't deny that it isn't beating in my chest. Its a part of the whole that is me.

From your posts both of you understand that your reference to the higher self as being seperate is FIGURATIVE, a figure of speech. But when inexperienced individuals read it, they take it literally. And that's what causes confusion.

I've noticed numerous times now, people asking about their higher self in the same way that they would be seeking out a spirit guide. No ritual in the world will give you the ability to connect with your higher self. It isn't about higher or more powerful magick, it needs no magick at all, it is about me myself and I! Id, ego, and superego. Conscious, subconscious and conscience...and all the other terms used in reference to the mind. We have to use our minds to interpret what our spirit desires. If Michiel and the others who have posted are good at meditation and cannot connect, then obviously they don't know what they are looking for.
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Re: Higher self
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 15
Good point
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Re: Higher self
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Post # 16

I'm going to use personal experience here as the best teacher.

When I first experienced my higher, I thought her a separate entity entirely from myself. She showed up when I began this path for the second time. When she revealed herself to me, I knew we had some sort of a connection, however I simply saw her as an entity that took up some interest in myself for whatever reason, and told me I was on the right path.

Looking back at it now, I can see some validity in that view. She had taken an interest in me and it was a way of telling me I was on the right path. However, now I see that encounter as it was, as us being separate, as me lacking a strong connection with her. As part of the universe, we are connected to all things, not just the ones we know we are connected to, not just the ones we want to be connected to, but everyone and everything. The blade of grass that you step on each day is just the same as you, another part of life.

Then, when I first learned I had a higher, I viewed her, yet again as a separate entity. Full of self doubt, I wondered why a higher being would want anything to do with me. I denied her and denied her, simply because I denied my own worth, my own self (not counting her ;) ). After time passed, I actually began to doubt she existed, or that if she did, that she wanted nothing to do with me. This grew and grew until I finally confronted her about it. She showed up. After that, everything began to change.

However, I still saw her as a separate entity during this, and she acted as such. Much of the time, she would speak to me and tell me to say or do something, as one would with a guide. It was very easy for me to simply go with what she said, rather than truly attempt to connect to her.As time passed, I started paying more and more attention, and she started saying less and less.

Eventually, she stopped talking altogether. At first, I thought I had done something wrong, that for whatever reason she decided to stop trying to connect with me. After several months like this, I began to notice instead how she was more speaking through me, than speaking to me.

Then, while I was meditating one night, I realized that she and I were connecting at a deeper level than we were previously. Everything changed, but in the end, it was for the better.

Looking back at all of this, I was often a fool, often I didn't understand the connection we had and have, often I was treating her as separate of myself. But also looking back, in comparison she might as well have been separate.

This is the end of the story now, so I will add one small thing, and yes, it sounds crazy, but eh. Sometimes I catch myself thinking of different things, then looking in a mirror, and instead of seeing myself in my eyes, I see her or us rather. It's weird, it's shocking, and yeah, maybe I am crazy.

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Re: Higher self
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 17
that does not sound crazy at all Divinus_Ordo that is such an up lifting and inspirational story of your life experience

I enjoyed reading your response, it's so romantic

Spiritual Consciousness stories are always the best love stories to me
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