Magic has no color!!!!

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Re: Magic has no color!!!!
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Post # 11
i agree the same with Mercurius. many people say "white or green,red,or black" magic just to explain it simply in a few words. i do think its true that magic has no exact color and that the purpose of the magic is up to the caster.
Example:
"i am casting a spell to help my grandmother heal from being sick."
that would be associated with "Positive" magic and would be labeled as "white" magic.
another example would be
"i am casting a spell to make my Ex boyfriend fall very ill and sick"
that would be associated with "negative" or "black" magic.
If you look at it, theres only Postive and Negative Energy that we send out which is based on the threefold law and rede in wicca. the whole "magic has a color" thing is fluff and we have ALL most likely been there.

Although it is widely known that White magic = positive, black magic =mostly negative, green magic = nature, red = love. they are all ways to describe magic. it is a part of the whole Fluff movement, yes but there is no need to point it out in a negative way.
Brysing messaged me last week about the "magic has no color" thing, because i mentioned i liked to practice white magic in my bio that i neglected to update for about a year and a half.

"There is no such thing as white,or black magic. Magic has no colour. Magic may be used for good or evil. But it is the people using it who are good or evil; not the magic itself."

this i already knew after coming back from a long break from this site, i have surely learned that since then and the difference between fluff and non-fluff which made my beliefs that i finally accepted, spiral down around me and it took a long time for me to get back up and accept it.

The title on this site i guess is misleading to some extent, but i am not going to be going around correcting everyone about the color thing. if i do, i will explain it in a positive way and refrain from making it more confusing for the one asking the question.

Thanks for posting this though, it is a helpful topic :]
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Re: Magic has no color!!!!
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Post # 12
"Theres only Postive and Negative Energy that we send out which is based on the threefold law and rede in wicca."

As of thus far no one has really said what white magick and black magick (among other colored magicks) actually are. Several people have said that it is just categorization, and others have agreed but said it was necessary. The idea that magick is based on a positive and negative scale (or even on a good and bad or helpful and harmful scale) is a limited perception of things.

People tend to look at the instant results of a spell or what they intend to be the results and call it black, white, or whatever color magick. This is flawed however because you only see things in the current, not in the long run of the world.

Everything in life comes at a price or some sort or another, even if you don't, can't, or won't see it.

For instance, if I were to do a spell to kill a man, he could have a family that depends on him dearly for their livelihood. Because of my actions I may have sentenced that entire family to death from starvation.

Then, if you take that example and say that instead of being depended on by his family, that the man * killed beat (among other things) his wife, beat his kids and dog, and was a terrible alcoholic. By killing this man I have done his family a good deed. I have saved them from an abusive man.

Now twist those two examples together for the last one. The man I killed was horribly abusive to his family, but he was necessary for their survival.

Which is black? Which is white?

Truth be told, there is no black magick, no white magick, no any color magick. When you get down to the root of it all, all there is is magick. It doesn't matter what you do because at the end of the day the result doesn't change what it is, the intent doesn't change what it is. I may have killed him out of spite, or I may have killed him to save his family, or maybe both. Either way, the end result is the same. I have blood on my hands and someone is out there missing the man I killed.

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After saying all this I will also say this, I have as of yet to have this conversation on this site in this chat. Either it has been happening less often or I just show up at the right times.
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Re: Magic has no color!!!!
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Post # 13
That is a very good way of putting it, from a perspective that i would had never thought of.
from that perspective i can see were your coming from.
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Re: Magic has no color!!!
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Post # 14
The term black/white magic isn't supposed to be taken literally you know. In my opinian, black magic is harmful, white magic is helpful, green magic deals with money, red magic deals with love, and purple magic with power. I'm pretty exierienced and I see nothing wrong with my view.
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Post # 15
Perrych you are entitled to your opinion, but black doesn't necessarily mean "evil" and white necessarily "good" each color has positive and negative aspects. The criteria for "evil" and "good" are based on opinion anyway. Just wanted to clarify.
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Re: Magic has no color!!!
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Post # 16
I'm aware, it's just about wether in general, it's good, I mean, if someone randomly cast a killing spell on some random person for fun. It would be hard to call that white magic right?
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Re: Magic has no color!!!!
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Post # 17
Yes, most would say that is immoral. But white is an inadequate label for "good" since it does not always mean good. You are very much entitled to call "good magic" white but "good magic" is your opinion and calling it white may confuse the lesser experienced.
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Re: Magic has no color!!!
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Post # 18
Not really. When I first started, I was perfectly aware that white magic was "good" and vice versa.
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Re: Magic has no color!!!!
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Post # 19
Well think what you wish, but i see white an inadequate label for "good magic."
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Re: Magic has no color!!!!
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Post # 20
"White magic" can be used for evil purposes just as "black magic" can be used for good.

The debate of magic's color has been going on for years and it will continue to thrive so long as people want to dwell on what they believe is the right adjective for the type of magic one does. Can we not put an end to this useless debate and move on to more important topics? Wasting time trying to change a persons mind on what color goes with what type of magic is like fighting over what color the sky is.

Magic is energy manipulation. The adjectives that one describes magic with varies and is contingent on a person's ideas of what is good and bad. Magic is never black and white because there are too many variables.
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