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ok fine it seems im force for something i dont want to believe, but i forgot that part nevermind, and do as you wish neckron if thats how your going to pay me back after trying to get people to our coven be that way
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Re: Karma
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Pain No one said you had to believe in karma in the first place. like i said before u can't disprove a belief system that has been in place long before you were born.
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Re: Karma
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i know ^_^ love you lady tessa
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Re: Karma
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JoS is utter BS.

But I have mixed feelings about karma.

if it exists, it doesnt take place in this lifetime, or so I think.

but as far as the person who cited the scientific belief. your an idiot.

for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction means if I throw a baseball and it hit another baseball, they will interact causing opposite reactions in each other, you are thinking VERY small mindedly, to think that this could apply to humans actions.
If i hit someone, they might avoid me, then because we got in a fight he no longer goes near me, causing him not to get in an accident that he would have been in if he and I had not fought....so would that be bad karma or good?

the universe is infinitely more complex than I hurt someone so someone will hurt me.

we need to look deeper into the inner workings.

Luzifer
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Re: Karma
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faust got to see this lol
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Re: Karma
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ok i believe you but im going to paste what joyofsatan says about this so you know it comes from them

The "Three-fold," the "Ten-fold," The One-hundred-fold”; all of these were invented by a few human beings to frighten the masses, in order to maintain spiritual control. With the availability of knowledge in modern times, witchcraft could no longer be suppressed, so the oppressors had to find a way to keep it inline so real power and control can remain in the hands of a few. These few *know* the truth and are adepts in black magick which they use liberally to spiritually enslave the masses. They control the mainstream religions that are nothing but programs to suppress knowledge and control humanity. The article below exposes this lie for what it is:

"The first known reference in print to the three-fold law of return appeared in 1970 in Witchcraft Ancient and Modern by Raymond Buckland who was initiated into the craft by Gerald Gardner and was instrumental in introducing Gardnerian Witchcraft into the United States."¹

With enough research, it is evident that the "three-fold" emerged with the "Gardnerian Tradition." Then, we have the "seven-fold" and Im sure everyone has heard of the "ten-fold." My point here is none of this recent man-made nonsense has anything to do with the original religions. Its sole purpose is to keep people from using their inborn power and to promote a passive attitude that is accepting of abuse. This is no different from the Christian Church.

This "three-fold teaching was taken from the eastern concept of "karma" after it merged with Western Christianity. After the eastern teachings of karma picked up the Judeo/Christian overtones of divine punishment, the product evolved into yet another system of control with the same theme of keeping power in the hands of a few who know how to use it to exploit humanity. One thing led to another and Gerald Gardner added more to this and promoted the belief that witches must never use their powers to cause harm. Everybody has to take abuse and keep the passive attitude.

The Wiccan Rede: "An it harm none, do what ye will." According to Gardner, the "creed" is derived from "Good King Pausol" who declared, "Do what you like so long as you harm no one." King Pausol is a fictitious character from the French novel by Pierre Lous (1870-1925): Les Adventures du Roi Pausole: Pausole (Souverain Paillard et Dbonnaire) (1901 and reprinted in 1925 numerous times since), or the Adventures of King Pausole (The Bawdy and Good Natured Sovereign). This is the basis of "Wicca." Wicca is nothing more than a Christianized version of the old religions. Wiccans have taken selected rites and teachings to suit their whims, from the original religions and have twisted, corrupted and transformed them and are now passing themselves off as the original religion. The hypocrisy can be readily seen in the Gods they acknowledge. Many, if not most of these Gods and Goddesses that they claim to worship, were the ones who brought the teachings of magick to humans, both white and black magick. They are known as "The Fallen Ones."

The original Horned God is Satan. In addition, few Wiccans bother to do any indepth research regarding the Gods and Goddesses they commune with and worship. Most of these deities are of the Pantheon of Hell. Many Wiccans and modern Pagans also unknowingly mix their deities (Angels with Demons) and this can spell disaster. I read a long list of deities these people claim to worship and it is obvious they really know nothing much about them. Most of these writings consist of nothing but double talk, for example: how "Ishtar" should be evoked instead of "Ashtaroth" even though they are the same Goddess. They claim using the name "Ashtaroth" is different, even though they readily admit she is the same Goddess.

According to author Raymond Buckland, Wiccans claim their religious roots to be evident in a Paleolithic cave painting of a man dressed in stag skins presumably performing a dance. "Caverne des Trois Freres at Ariege France" is the site of this cave painting. It is just that- a man dressed up in animal skins and is no proof of anything.

Satanism has often served as the scapegoat for these new age religions and movements, whose adherents view themselves as so good and perfect. Wicca is a Christianized corruption of the old pagan religions. Wicca is the Judeo/Christianized version of witchcraft. One of the major goals of Christianity is to destroy the past and replace it with fictitious versions that conform to the lie of Christianity. Recently, they have been working to turn the religion into a Goddess cult, by gradually getting rid of the Horned God so there will be fewer and fewer ties with the original religions. Wicca is a bogus movement, not based upon the facts, but like Christianity, it is based upon stolen and altered rites and teachings. Like Christianity, it depends upon the ignorance of its followers to thrive

but as i learn satan burn karma so yeah i was sarcastic the first time but i guess im with neckron lol
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Re: Karma
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I agree with Luzifer.

In my belief it is inner force,not some outer cosmic balance.

Whatever we are aware of it it exist within us,it is like sea of oneself actions.It is limit and balance till we can transcend within harmony of oneself.

Even if it is religions beliefs i hold it as truth rather then belief.
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