To me they go hand in hand. We get the energy from the earth to help in our magicks and spells. And the magick behind those two spells would be the same the only difference is the spell itself an it's intent. And you can't make someone love you because you cant (shouldnt) force someone's will.
Re: Spells Vs. Nature By: theillyrium Sep 10, 2011
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Magic is part of nature, natural energy and such. Secondly there is no spell that could truly make one fly, unless the cast a spell to get them tickets for a flight on a plane. As far as love spells, you can't in my opinion manipulate or override free will, but even if it was possible you shouldn't. Remember one of the golden rules "Do unto others as you'd like done to you". Hence work with others not against them and you may get what you want, and it will be worth it, rather than trying to force other people into doing something that they don't want to do, something they aren't given a choice in.
If you work with the natural flow of energy, you will perhaps find life to be a bit easier, and you might even make yourself smile and be a bit happier all along the way as well.
Working with the elements Earth, Air, Fire, and Water What I hope by practicing magic is just as you said If you work with the natural flow of energy, you will perhaps find life to be a bit easier, and you might even make yourself smile and be a bit happier all along the way as well =o) that itself is very motivating and fascinating..Wicca is also a wonderful hobby and for me hobbies make up half of my life there my passion..
Yes spells go hand and hand with nature and also help us connect to the divine within and without. The intentions behind a spell and the practitioner are what can go against the natural order if one so chooses but those who do find that things get harder because their like the fish traveling against the current. Imagine that a fish trying to swim against the strong and amazing current while others flow with it in ease. It's possible for a fish to swim against it but they don't get very far at all and might even get pushed against a rock in the current thus getting harmed.
Please know that any spiritual path and/or practices is not merely some hobby, that makes you a dibble dabbler and I'm just being blunt with it because I have choosen wicca as one of many awesome spiritual path and something I truely follow and make a life style for myself and as a path that spiritual fullfills me. So I felt a little disrespected and for others that believe and follow such a great path, I don't speak for them but I believe we all agree that spiritual paths and practices aren't mere hobbies someone can pick up and drop the next day. If your so passionate about your hobbies then why not make wicca (a non-hobby) your way of life and spiritual path (That would take away the belittlement you have entitled it). I hope this doesn't offend you but inform you. It's something you may need to get a bit deeper into to truely understand. I mean you no harm and I hope you take what I say into consideration and maybe find that if wicca is truely for you that you follow it through.
Blessings Be and Peace to you all. :D
okay im sorry if i dis-respected you..it has always been my spiritual path just the way i live day to day without spells and such I go through more suffering than you could probably have ever imagined having fun is preety much all i have and my various interests of course my family and friends ..But i dont just do wicca for the fun of it im interested in improving myself and becoming a better person plus i love nature and the beauty of it..since there is so much negativity around me and darkness.. Iam very ill right now mentally and i am recovering i dont think taking enjoyment in wicca is a bad thing i was just trying to express how much i do..maybe saying it was also my hobby is wrong i didnt really take it like dis-respecting wicca i meant only good intent.. i was just being positive soem people seem to take things just a little bit too seriously Your the only person who has taken it that way so that says something.. thats all.. peace.. i apologize..