Hello my name is Kay and I am 15 years old. I have been interested in magick for a while now and I have also been on this website for a few months. I was wondering if there was anyone out there that would be willing to help me learn the basics of magick.
I know a lot of people will say you should teach yourself but I don't know where to start because I can't get any books because I don't live near a library and I can't find any good books online for free and I would also like a teacher so I can ask them questions.
I am interested in almost all kinds of magick and be more than willing to learn about most kinds.
Thank you for taking the time to read this and I hope you have a good rest of your day!
Re: Anyone willing to teach? By: NordStar Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 2 Nov 06, 2016
Very few people will teach anyone who is under 18. This is not a remark on minors it is due to legal issues. In the US teaching anyone a religion, who is under 18, without the consent of parents can get you sued.
This particular rule/law protects us as well as parents of other religions.
If you want some free information, I suggest www.sacred-texts.com
Practicing magic isn't a religion, however, so there shouldn't be any concern of legal issues. One should not start with spells, but you should start with just reading and learning as much about magic as you can, then you can branch out into other areas.
Teaching magick is still against the law when done for a minor against parental consent. It is under the religion caluse because it is against the parents religion . So though you are right, magick is not a religion in a legal context it still counts.
I researched and researched and, well- you're all right and wrong. Only time it is illegal to teach a minor religion is if you are an education teacher (defined as a primary or secondany teacher). Essentially in the school system. The law actually protects minors right to choose their religious, which is why I think is risky to teach under the age of consent (in some states that is 14, in most it is 15 or 16).
You do your self a disservice when you don't research things yourself (always be suspicious when there are no sources for a "law" or anything pertaining to the law or legality of an act). No church i have ever been to have NEVER had parental consent forms, why? Because they aren't credited or apart of the school system.
the link above explicitly defined children's rights (courtesy of a children's rights org).
Link above talk about children's rights in regards to religion. Although half of it talk about other issues in regards to this (genetically mutilation, forces marriages- all things parents could force their children to do if children did not have religious freedom), the first part pertaining to this.
Minors should not be excluded from being taught because they have the right to be taught any religious they consent to. It's actually the international law.
This is a great ACLU article from 1999. Minors have religious freedomsand do not need parental consent for being taught or practicing it. When parents or educational systems take issue, they're the ones violating the law.
Re: Anyone willing to teach? By: Lark Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 8 Nov 29, 2016
Sylla, I would suggest that you look at the article, Teaching Wicca to Minors at http://www.spellsofmagic.com/read_post.html?post=556828 which sites the legal precedents, including a Supreme Court case, that states very clearly that parents have the right to determine the religious upbringing of their children. While the child may have religious freedom, the law is clear that those who teach religion to the child without the consent of the parents is in legal hot water.
I read that article on voxwitch. It's dated and no longer holds true in the judicial system. These lawsuits occurred in the same timeframe NYC had Nazi parades and segregated school where legal (1920s). The children's declaration of rights in 1959 made it illegal for such lawsuits to exist if the child in question consented. Also the article fails to explain that in most states the age of consent is 15- special cases 16 (hence why teens can go to adult prison, yet married, get their license, etc).
I'm giving you out right, current international law with sources. It is legal.
I'm looking up the cases individually for sources now. What i have found is Meyer vs. NEBRASKA 1923 was not a witchcraft related case.
"A state law forbidding, under penalty, the teaching in any private, denominational, parochial or public school, of any modern language, other than English, to any child who has not attained and successfully [p391] passed the eighth grade, invades the liberty guaranteed by the Fourteenth Amendment and exceeds the power of the State. P. 399."
It was about language.