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Over a hell issue...
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Today we had an exciting chatter over hell....
This is my comment over it...

What power would hell have if those imprisoned here would not be able to dream of heaven
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This is assuming Hell is real. I personally do not believe in such a place. When you say "imprisoned here" do you mean on Earth, or in Hell?
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In hell
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I like the poetic feeling to your (Neil Gaiman's, actually) sentiment :)

I do believe that people who do bad things, live corrupt lives, hurt others (etc, you get the picture) do not reincarnate to happy or nice places. Or perhaps they do, so karma can rip them from their nice life and show them the pain they caused... I dunno really. I don't believe some fiery abyss with Satan on a throne exists.

Hell has that power of fear, that if you do bad things you will go there. For those who don't follow a belief system with Hell in it, there are other karmic punishments. The Christian religion is very... hmm what am I looking for... people like to talk about it, play it up, glorify it, hate it, pick it apart. More so than any belief system, I'd venture to say. Especially the movies (I'm looking at you, Legion!). What is more fun... Hell opening up and demons flying everywhere, or a series of unfortunate happenings over the course of someone's life? For the sake of spending money, I want my $8 worth of demons! Hell is extremely well developed in terms of imagery and connotation. Everyone knows what it is and what it implies, even if they don't believe in it.

You can always argue, what power would Heaven have if those on Earth were not afraid of Hell? ;)
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To me this pretty much sums it up and always has....


A Pagan In Hell

A Pagan dies, and to his great surprise finds himself standing before some pearly gates. The guy in charge looks him over before asking, "Can I help you?"

"Where am I?" asks the Pagan.

"Beg your pardon?" the other guy asks. "You're in Heaven, of course."

"B-but I don't believe..."

"Hmmm" (squinting his eyes) "are you one of them Pagan folk?" the gatekeeper asks, his mouth curling in mild distaste.

"Yes, I am... I believe I'm in the wrong place, which way is the Summerland?" our Pagan friend asks.

"It's been 'temporarily' shut down for repairs," the gatekeeper said with an ironic chuckle, "ever since we took over...err...I mean... since the people found their way to the true path."

"Whatever," says the Pagan, "What do I do now?"

"I'm sorry sir, but you must go to Hell. No Pagans allowed here."

"WHAT? Hell? But I don't believe in Hell!"

"Sorry, those are the rules, just follow the downward path to the left."

So our Pagan friend walks down to Hell, only to find the doors open. He warily goes in and looks around to see beautiful meadows, and animals happily roaming the surrounding woods. "Hmm, so far so good."

A voice behind him made him all but jump out of his skin. "Can I help you?"

"SHEESH! Give a guy a heart attack, why don't you?"

"Ahem... a little too late for that, isn't it?" the guy said with a smile.

"Who are you, anyway?" our friend asks.

"Why, I'm Satan," the other one said with a slight bow.

"Satan?!" said our friend as he started looking around nervously.

"At your service... you're the Pagan guy Pete called us about, right?"

"Pete... oh the guy in Heaven, yes..." he said, eyeing Satan carefully. "What's gonna happen to me now?"

"Well, you can hang out, there's some great fishing going on in the lake beyond these woods and, if you follow the road down this way, there's refreshments and a little market not too far and to your right. I believe the Pagan meeting grounds are just behind that hill..." Satan went on.

"Are you serious...?" he finally asked.

Satan grinned at him innocently. "Why shouldn't I be?" Sudden understanding filled Satan's eyes. "You don't believe the rumors, do you?"

Suddenly, in answer to our friend's growing fear, the vault of the skies opened with a thunderous groan. A soul, plummeting through the sky, screamed in terror, his screams drowned by the opening of a yawning chasm full of fire and brimstone. The stench of sulfur thickened the air. Thousands of howling, suffering, tortured voices echoed through Hell. When the screaming soul finally fell into the pit, the ground shut closed with a sickening thud that rattled the earth.

Our Pagan friend all but soiled his undies as he yelped in terror. "And what was THAT all about?"

Satan rolled his eyes, and made a dismissive gesture with his hand as he said with a distasteful grimace. "Oh, just ignore that..." He rolled his eyes again. "My Christian guests refuse to have it any other way!"
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haha thats awesome
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Pagans go to heaven. Read the bible.
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only whenthere soul is "pureifyed" by ritches fire and wiping ect ect, atleas it was back on 1000AD
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Don't be ignorant.
In Christian belief system if a pagan spends his days on Earth in a "non-evil" way he goes to heaven.
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realy? welli just seid it like i heard it
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