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I was wondering how you find your element. How do you find the element you are best with. I have not found mine yet and I would like to find out. Also can someone have equal control of the elements?
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I'm not sure how to explain to you how to find your element. But I would like to clarify that using the term "control" shouldn't be what you say to get your point across. My belief is that one can not control the elements but can channel and work with them.
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heywatsup is correct. There are many who claim to be able to control the elements. They cannot! Nobody can make rain, or storms,or control fire. Many a youngster has thought he/she has created rain.They find it hard to believe that it would have rained anyway!
It is like claiming to be able to cause earthquakes or tornadoes. You can bet money on it that there will be such an event somewhere in the world, and some guy will claim that they made it happen.
They didn't, Mother Earth did!
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heywatsup, when the term "control" the elements is used, normally it does refer to channeling and working with them. The elements can be manipulated similar to the way a potter "manipulates" the clay they are working with.
heywatsup is correct. There are many who claim to be able to control the elements. They cannot! Nobody can make rain, or storms,or control fire. Many a youngster has thought he/she has created rain.They find it hard to believe that it would have rained anyway!
It is like claiming to be able to cause earthquakes or tornadoes. You can bet money on it that there will be such an event somewhere in the world, and some guy will claim that they made it happen.
They didn't, Mother Earth did
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Sorry Bry, but there are those that can control the elements (I strongly suggest you read, or at least skim, a copy of "Initation Into Hermetics".
Now, what you say about some one putting money on making a disaster happen and it happen "somewhere" in the world is true. BUT (for those more mathematically minded, there is an "equation" or sorts with the explained variables)...let us suppose that said "guy", now to be reffered to as "g", predicts that there will be anatural disaster, "d",over a specific area of the earth within a given time frame, "t", and it comes true, then that person may successfully claim that they "made it happen", claim "c".
g predicts d and 0<d<t, if d="1", then c=1
BUT
g predicts d and 0<d>t, OR d="0", then c=0
therefore making the claim false.
Remember Brysing also, do not say, those who "...claim to be able to control the elements." "...cannot." You may say something like, "in my experience..." but when you put that out there as a fact, you also must be able to say that you have met every person in the world who claims to be able to control the elements and seen for yourself that they cannot!
Thanks,
Alldue respect,
--Thunor
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It has been posted many times on this site. You may believe anything you wish.
So I will say it once again. Anyone who can make rain would be paid millions by the Government of Saudi Arabia.
It is my own belief that nobody can control the elements.
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Basically what I am trying to say is that if somebody really did their basics, and really meditated and spent the necessary amount of time tuning themselves with mother nature and the earth and did a spell to call forth rain, and it worked and it rained, does not mean they can controll the element of water. it just means they channeled and it called it forth. Very similar but yet so very different.
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Indeed you cannot 'control' an element, you can only manipulate it to an extent.
For the 3 that posted answered only 1 out of your 3 questions, there are 2 ways that i know of to help find your element.
One is to take each element, feather or dagger for air, candle or matches or lighter for fire, bowl of water for water, and salt or soil or stones for earth (of course there could be other substitutes but these are the most common and best in my opinion). With each element, just meditate with them, trying to find which one you are drawn most to.
Another is to literally interact with an element in everyday life and see which one you are most drawn to or more comfortable with.
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Post # 8
We are all made of all four elements (or five if you include spirit) We breathe Air;most of the body is water; we have "fire" body heat and sunshine; and we eat food from the Earth.
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There is no way to "control" an element, but you may influence it. There are some people that has the power to do such things.

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