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4 years of practice...no
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PLEASE, if you have Astral, or even Etheric experience, please help me! I have been trying almost every night to get some sort of OBE for 3 and a half years! I've heard of some doing it in a week or even on their first try, but I have trouble even getting into the vibrational state.
I've tried the rope pull-out method for attemting seperation, the 'floating up' method, the rolling out method, and many other methods, and even just partial seperation, but I just cant do it! I'm starting to doubt I will ever be able to.
I follow different instructions and different methods, including personal experience from friends and how the Poppet teaches it. I tried the 7 step approach and I meditate for an hour before even attempting to get into a deeper trance. I've tried silence, white noise, calming music, meditation music, binaural beats, delta waves, and every other kind of beat or wave out there. The closest I've gotten the closest (the deepest trance) with guided meditation but the track brings you out of trance and I never have been able to get to that level of trance since. This was a year ago. I had the same amount of success a while later, about half a year ago, where I experienced my 2nd sleep paralysis. The first was 3 years ago, half a year after I began. The second one has remained the scariest moment in my life but I am still determined to seperate onto the Astral plane at least once in spite of it.
I know about chakras and am just now beginning conscious, deliberate work on them. This is because they *could* be a block on my achieving seperation. I have tried entering from lucid dreams, but i either fail to have them but remember I want to OBE, or have them but forget about OBE. I have tried ceremonial baths, different meditation, yoga, spiritual diets, trance, incence and no incence, and more. I have tried in the daytime; morning, noon, and night. I have tried at sunset and sunrise. I have tried on full moons, half moons, new moons, etc. I have tried with my windows open and closed. I have tried at dusk, midnight, witching hour, and dawn. I have tried with a lot of light, some light, very little light, and pitch black. I have tried laying North to South, South to North, East to West, etc. I have tried over-analyzing the process and just willing it to happen. I have tried with one or two others, and alone. I have tried in my own company and in a large group's. I have changed the setting. I have tried at the beach, the forest, a big city, low and high energy zones, in a spiritual protected area and not, outside, inside, on a roof, even underground in a cavern... its just EXTREMELY frustrating because I have worn thin almost every technique I know of. People say, figure out what is right for me, and I've tried for 3.5 years. I really want to achieve OBE, very very much. I've been trying for almost 4 years and I have run out of things to try. I've done so much research and learned so much and have read so many different accounts of AP and EP. If you know anything PLEASE help me. I can usually do things on my own but I am having so much trouble with this. I know things take time but I think after 4 years I should see some kind of result or easier trance or something, but it is still the same. It is very disheartening... Am I missing something? Is there information I should know but don't? Any new techniques? Is 4 years actually a reasonable time frame? I am looking for any sort of guidance or advice, in any amount. Even just a three or four word reply with another method of separation would help. Thank you for your time. Please feel free to ask any question.
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Re: 4 years of practice...no
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I told you that I would help you love XD Remember? Once we get on skype I'll teach you. Although I'm not going to just go right into how to reach Kamaloka, you need to learn things first. Just like you have to know how to crawl before you can walk. Life just takes patience, so see you when you get back :)
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Re: 4 years of practice...no
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Post # 3
read michael raduga's free e-book, school of out of body travel(obt) if you haven't already, it seemed to help me in the first few days. you can download it here http://aing.ru/files/SOBT.zip
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Re: 4 years of practice...no
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Post # 4
Could she be locked some how?
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Re: 4 years of practice...no
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I have had the same problem. I ended up doing it once but after that, to no avail. I had night sweats, so I would wake up at odd times and then when falling asleep, I would go through sleep paralysis. I found out later that setting your alarm for hours you usually do not wake up, then falling asleep soon after, can help to at least cause the sleep paralysis. That might help a wee bit.
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Re: 4 years of practice...no
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Post # 6
Sometimes it takes a spiritual presence for me to travel, like the presence of a guardian angel or spirit. Candle light also helps me, I put them in Cardinal directions.
Sometimes, and I know you might not want to hear this, but it could take a special gift to AP. that's why some people get it on the first try. But don't lose hope! Maybe if you took a year break and came back to it with a freash mind you might get it.
Good luck and blessed be to thee!
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Re: 4 years of practice...no
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there are times that you dont remember your travel when you wake up , some travels are dreams, and dont look for signs because thats what make you cant do it . just do it and drop all your expectations dont try to hard just relax control your consciousness and let your body sleep but keep your consciousness awake try it and you will know what im saying
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Re: 4 years of practice...no
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Post # 8
What sometimes blocks individuals seeking such things is the simple fact that they want it too much and try too hard. As ironic as it is, their focus is actually too great, and they become so intent on the steps they are taking, the sensations they should be feeling, that they get lost in the process rather than actually partaking in it.

Relax. Let go. Flow.
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Re: 4 years of practice...no
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Thank you loves! However, months later, still no progress. :(
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