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I'm sorry if I offended or upset you, it's just that I have a very hard time controlling impulses, and I am upset. I feel like I'm being dehumanized and that people are attacking me right now,,
I'm sorry this is probably also impulsive too I can't control it because of my bpd I'm sorry I feel bad because you haven't replied and people have been attacking me with transphobic things all day,, I'm sorr y

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I would like to speak on the original posts use of the words self acceptance. The self is who we are. It is what we are born with. Acceptance of self is to accept and deal/live with who and what we are. So to transition to a different gender is not acceptance of who we are or the self but it is more the courage to define ourselves by our own standards and the standards that others have placed on us.

That being said there is power in defining ourselves but it is folly to throw aside the wisdom of being what we were meant to be and accepting ourselves as we are.

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Who you are is who you are inside, not your genitalia, I was talking about accepting who you are inside and being able to be yourself accordingly,,Could you maybe rephrase for me?
( i'd like to apologize for maybe not being able to phrase my sentences so well as I just got over a panic attack).
Gender and sexual organs have nothing to do with eachother, while it's originally meant for feminine and masculine terms, it is more of a term for doctors.
What I'm trying to say is that you are not your chromozones and that you should be able to dress, act, and be who you are. You should be able to be accepted by others and have them use your correct pronouns (which are the ones you choose and are comfortable with).
For some people, transitioning is the only way to get rid of dysphoria and self hate though, and I don't think that's a bad thing. but don't we all have things we'd like to change about ourselves? don't we all wish we were accepted and loved? people are allowed to do things for themselves that make them happy,,

I'm sorry that my replies are very long, but this is such an important passionate thing to talk about.

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Jaze you are correct and you get your point across just fine. Our bodies are nothing but flesh bags! When you strip away the outside you are left with you! PERFECT IT YOUR OWN WAY! So are you saying that what you hate is the internal you? Or do you hate the flesh bag? And why does anyone hate themselves?

Re: Gender !!
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Post # 19
Jaze, do you really think nobody understands you unless they themselves are transgenders? That's like saying a doctor doesn't understand an illness unless he himself has the same illness! Some of us are very much older than you, have experience of life, have had longer to study. So, don't think nobody understands you. I have lived a lot longer than you have been alive! You think nobody understands you? Every teenager I have ever met thinks the same. The constant cry of a teenager is "Nobody understands me!". But we do, Jaze, we understand very well! We were all teenagers once!
And, no, you didn't upset me.You are the one who is upset! And I am sorry about that.

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What people sometimes see is that the outside them is the inside them, and they dispise themselves for it, and it saddens me so much to see that and sometimes feel it.
A doctor can understand and care for a patient, but that doctor does not have the illness themself, and for trans people, you need to let them speak about their pain.

Thank you for bearing with me, I'm so glad because it's hard to control impulses and have a stable mood with my disorder. It means a lot and I'm glad that I didn't upset anyone,,

Re: Gender !!
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Post # 21
I hope you get what you are looking for. May I make a suggestion? Contact April Ashley, she has a web-site, and she has helped hundreds of young people just like you. She will perfectly understand exactly how you feel. She was once as you are now!
Blessings, and Good Luck!

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I think what they ment was you can be who you want just because you were born a separate way doesn't mean you have to stay that way for example if your born a surtain religion but growing up you lose faith in that religion so in this case they meant just because you were born male/female doesn't mean you have to act that way just because its the normal way to be or doesn't mean you can't wear a dress and make up because you're a man basically be your self no matter what anyone thinks

But also this doesn't have anything to do with magick

Re: Gender !!
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Post # 23
Arren, you have completely missed the point, or you didn't understand the first post on this thread. The post was about not having the same gender you were born with. Not something you can "stop believing" like religion.It's about sexuality; boys feeling that they are "born in the wrong body" and really should be girls.And about girls feeling the same way.It is a desperate situation for anybody! So, the discussion is whether or not you can change your gender. That, of course, is impossible. All that can be done is to change "the appearance". And when you see the joy on the face of a boy who is finally accepted, by society and the Law, as a girl; you will know that it really is "magic". It is about sex, and the whole of Nature is about sex.Without sex nothing would be alive (or very little would be alive!), So, is sex magic? It certainly is!

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I think this thread is now at an end.

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