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Re: The forms
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Post # 37
at any age we should be able to imagine and believe what we want, I don't care if you agree or not but we mustn't state that we can't believe this, then we would be just as bad as the orthafox religions

Not necessarily. There was another post where I did a breakdown of the false paradox of tolerating intolerance, and I think this is similar.

The thing is, the truth is important. Honesty, integrity, and authenticity is important. Communication is important, too, so if you say "I believe this" then you should expect people to also say, "I believe something else."

When we state, "I don't believe this and so neither should you," that is certainly oppressive, but that doesn't automatically mean that we should remain silent (or worse, accepting) if somebody expressly believes in something that is harmfully untrue.

If it's a belief that is true to somebody and does no harm, such as... say, a belief in ghosts that allows a grieving widower to make the shift to living life to the fullest again. Of course I'd be a horrible jerk to say, "Ghosts don't exist!" I must recognize the personal significance and the obliquely empirical effect.

If that same belief in ghosts becomes oppressive, for example, if I want to move into a nice house that somebody believes is haunted, and they keep nagging me not to do it, or to move out, and then after I've lived there a few months they accuse me of breaking down their belief system by living there happily and proving that there's no ghost... uhh, excuse me but I'm not going to change my whole life just so that you can preserve your precious paradigm. That's when I can say, "You can't keep believing that because I'm not going to move out just so that you can keep believing that!" And if they cover themselves in a bedsheet and make woo sounds outside my window, then that's going to get oppressive to me . I cannot respect belief taken to that extreme.

That's the difference. Do you understand my viewpoint, now?
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Re: The forms
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Post # 38
You can believe it all you want, but to say that is true for everyone else is wrong. What that is doing is creating dogma.

That put it better than I did.
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Re: The forms
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 39
As Hadit has said,this thread has gone off line, but that's what conversations and discussions do, is it not? About children knowing what is real, and what is not real. At one time my family had a real good laugh at me! My three year old daughter was sitting on the staircase, obviously pretending that she was on a bus. I sat beside and asked, "Can I come on your bus?" She looked at me as though I was crazy! She said, "It's a staircase, Dad!" Lesson, children do not like adults to join in their games!
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Re: The forms
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To get back on topic, I believe that nymphs, faeries,and others are real. They are beings associated with nature. Nature exists so why wouldn't they exist. I agree they are not those creatures you see in movies.
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Re: The forms
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Post # 41
can we make a creature like that ? or can godforms createbone of those ?
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Re: The forms
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Post # 42
There is a thing called a tulpa. The memoirs of French explorer Alexandra David-Neel detailed how to create one, and Dion Fortune referred to these as "artificial elementals" in her book about psychic self-defense (Dion Fortune accidentally made a wolf; not physical, of course.) She said that's where some guardian angels come from: protective parents, doing magic without knowing it. Power of love, and all that.

Why do you keep asking, Talis? What is it exactly that you want to do?
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Re: The forms
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Post # 43
Im not a rude people ...
i asked demonguy if i can merge those creature to one form and he tells yes . I love forms so i want to create one and i want ro create dwarves , faries and any forms and form all of them in one form . And so they can help me and follow me :D
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Re: The forms
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 44

Talismagik, you cannot create physical beings with your mind. When people talk about creating a "Thought form" they are speaking of creating something out of energy, which remains as energy. It never becomes something physical such as a dwarf or a fairy.

Demonguy13 makes many statements, but he is also very, very new to this and his statements are often incorrect. You might want to look at what others are saying who have been doing this longer and who know what it is they are doing.

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Re: The forms
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Post # 45
Talismagick, we are not supposed to use text speak. I'm just trying to warn you cause you do it a lot. It can get you gagged, however you can't create a sport. People have said this several times, you can believe in fairies and creature but there real only in your mind, and subconcious form.
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Re: The forms
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Thanks guys , any other opinions ?
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