Love spells v.free will

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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 6
My point has nothing to do with morality. I am just pointing out that with everything we do, there is always a consequence attached. Think of it in a lesser degree: the actions we take in our daily lives, these actions often have consequence. A consequence is most often misunderstood to be negative in nature, but the fact is that even favourable outcomes are consequence. Ergo, they can be good, bad or even neutral dependent on the original course taken. Morality for the most part , while accepted by most as a given set of ethics to abide by, is relative in that some choose for themselves outside of the societal paradigm to craft their own ethos to abide by. Some people, for example, have no qualms taking another's life, and practise things we deem vile and reprehensible, and have no guilt in doing so. And yes, another's free will can be tampered with, they in essence become Thralls. Hence the term "enthralled". I simply was pointing out the possibility of pitfalls to be considered when making such a request in a less than stable mental state.
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 7
Free-will is defined as "Voluntary choice or decision; freedom of human beings to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or divine intervention". Just to clarify.
Definition source: Webster's Dictionary and Thesaurus for home, school and office, 2nd ed, 2002. P.151
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 8
And my point exactly, Brite. If they are inclined to be hostile or have lost the feeling for the person, these feelings and tendencies will be AMPLIFIED. Likewise, if it is a temporary rift and there are still strong feelings. To what degree is a variable unknown, but must be considered. People have a tendency to be aggressive if they feel backed into the proverbial corner. I am of the opinion that it is just best to let go, hard as it may be. If they desire to resume where they left off, that is a good thing! Notice that my post was worded to state that it is up to the person to proceed or not, but after considering such possibilities.
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Post # 9
By this rationality, you can say any spell directed towards a person is tampering with their free will - not just a love spell. While there are ramifications, some people will take them. Many times what we see as backlash is simply life continuing around us. As a practitioner, it's up to the individual whether or not they want to take the chance. Some people have no qualms about directing magic towards one another - myself included. I see every spell cast, every chant, as being connected with the forces around us which includes people.

This delves into free will versus destiny. Can you cast spells against someone's free will or is it destiny that you cast spells on them to attract them to you? It may be you were meant to tap into the forces that be and return this person to you. This entire experience was to get you interesting in learning the mechanics of magic. Far more than one practicing witch got her start from a broken heart. And what better way to get confirmation that you can do magic than to have your love return to you? It starts a chain reaction into learning.
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 10
I agree completely, Sundrops. The post was not to dissuade any from ultimately making a choice. Rather, it was to make a point to really ponder the possible outcome(s) of their final decision.
I am not here to point in one direction or other. The choice is ultimately up to the person. I was simply pointing out that we tend to act rashly in a state of mind where our emotions overpower and subdue our rationale, and thus cloud our ability to make rational and well-thought out decisions. We do learn via trial-and error. jumping off a cliff after looking around and deciding to do it (or not) is one thing, whereas doing it blindly and in haste is another.
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 11
also, I Personally do not subscribe to destiny, which is ultimately Pre-Destination; that one's life is pre-determined by the Gods/ Forces to me seems rather nonsensical, but there are people who subscribe to this. And they are not wrong in doing so.
I am the one who makes the choices, and thus chart and navigate my own destiny; I am the one who must deal with the consequences and end results of my actions. Pre-destination also seems to me to be a cop-out from personal accountability. I could be completely mistaken, but that is what "destiny" does imply by it's very name.
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Re: Love spells v.free wi
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Post # 12
I appreciate the clarification rapta. And i can also see that you empathize with the brokenhearted. My point is that if you are experienced enough to cast an effective love spell then you already know about the consequences. And if you are not, then the spell will fail. Getting more or less than you bargained for has nothing to do with the spell, its just the coincidence of life.
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 13
This is true, Brite. A more experienced caster will definitely be more aware of the gravity. And have more ability to focus the energy in the direction desired. And even increase the odds of success in the final outcome. But once energy has been released, we have no way of knowing that it did as intended 100%, or can make a solid guarantee (yes, guarantee) that it will do as intended. We HOPE it will, obviously. But then again, say it does work 100% ? How can we say beyond the shadow of a doubt there will be no ramifications, good or bad? We in essence have disturbed the balance of ebb/ flow in the universe somewhere. The Universe does have a system of checks and balances, and the disturbance of free-will has to come out of somebody's account, so to speak. Once again, just a viewpoint, not an assertion.
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Re: Love spells v.free will
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Post # 14
And I neglected to mention there is one common "destiny" (pre-determined) for one and all: Death. This is really the only thing that can truly be classified as "destiny"; I mention this not to be a killjoy, but rather to really sum up destiny in a nutshell. Whether or not our souls travel somewhere I know not.
But our lives do leave an indelible mark on the universe, which time cannot erase, and can be defined by the course of actions taken while alive. Thus, if we choose to practise the binding of others,(selfish in nature)for instance, rather than healing them (noble and giving)when the need arises, what are we chiseling into the wall of time? Just food for thought, the view of one old man. I humbly apologise if I come off as harsh or dogmatic, which I am not. I just tend to view things from a more practical and utilitarian angle than some. Peppered with reasoning that includes science and logic, but not so rigid that it can be inflexible or narrow.
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Post # 15
Fate and destiny are two different things. Destiny can be changed. Fate cannot.
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