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Forums -> Norse Paganism -> Poll: Traditional/New Age

Poll: Traditional/New Age
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 1

First and foremost, which branch(es) of Heathenry do you conisder yourself closest to? (Eclectic, Traditional, Modern, Odinists, etc).

When it comes to working with Norse deities, do you feel that the practice should strive to be more traditional? Should the practice surrounding these deities adhere closer to cultural ideas or should is deviation okay?

Do you feel that New Age branches of Heathenry, such as Lokeanism, Rokkatru and including the Jotunfolk in work, is becoming more acceptable in modern society? Is this acceptable? Why or why not?

What role, if any, do you believe that UPG and PCPG (unverified personal gnosis and peer collaborated personal gnosis, respectively) play in modern honoring of Norse deities? Do you use either of these in your own personal practice?

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Re: Poll: Traditional/New Age
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Post # 2
1. Lokean , though I do honor the other deities, at times.

2. As a person chooses their path, so too, should they choose how to practice it.

3. I would say, they're becoming a popular choice, not an accepted one.
Some national events, still don't recognize us.

4. I had to do, a bit of homework on this, but found myself intrigued ... Yes, I believe it does.

Loki is linked to the element of fire, but there's no evidence of this, in either the "Poetic Edda" or the "Prose Edda".

It's just so, as recent literature states it.

Does it effect my practices? I believe it does, as my knowledge comes from current literature, and written articles.

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Re: Poll: Traditional/New Age
By: / Beginner
Post # 3

Elecectic and Modern.

I have some knowledge and still work with other Divinity from different regions. But I find my heart belongs to the Northern regions.

I would love my practice to be more traditional sadly. My practice is limited Since I work with Jotun mainly.

I look more into PCPG but I have my own UPG and they affact me in a different way.

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Re: Poll: Traditional/New Age
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 4

First and foremost, which branch(es) of Heathenry do you conisder yourself closest to? (Eclectic, Traditional, Modern, Odinists, etc).

I just like to consider myself a Heathen in general. I'm an odd mixture of several different branches (Lokean, Rokkatruar, Eclectic and some Traditional) so it's easier to just be general about my practice.

When it comes to working with Norse deities, do you feel that the practice should strive to be more traditional? Should the practice surrounding these deities adhere closer to cultural ideas or should is deviation okay?

I think it's always important to appreciate and know the culture and tradition surrounding the deities you work with. I try to incorporate as much traditional practice into my own as I can. But due to the lack of information, and due to some of my practice being new-agey, I've had to deviate- and I feel that's fine. What works for a person works for them.

Do you feel that New Age branches of Heathenry, such as Lokeanism, Rokkatru and including the Jotunfolk in work, is becoming more acceptable in modern society? Is this acceptable? Why or why not?

I do think that people are becoming more open to these paths. I've noticed a large influx of interest in Loki and the Jotunfolk in this community with just the past two years. I think a lot of the "older folk" who practice different branches of Heathenry use "new age" as a label with negative connotation as a way of devaluing these newer practices. But just because our ancestors didn't nessssarily work with these deities doesn't mean it isn't okay for us to. It's just.. different, and new. And there's nothing wrong with being different or new.

What role, if any, do you believe that UPG and PCPG (unverified personal gnosis and peer collaborated personal gnosis, respectively) play in modern honoring of Norse deities? Do you use either of these in your own personal practice?

I think as people are opening up their minds to these newer branches of Heathenry, they are also opening themselves up to UPG and PCPG. We don't have a lot of written lore or written practice for things like Rokkatru, so it relies entirely on the people who are at the forefront of the practice and who are publishing their experiences for others to read. I think UPG is important in anyone's personal practice. I use UPG on a daily basis. I think the more you come to work with a deity, the more about the deity you come to know. Deities aren't bound to words in books. They are ever growing, ever changing and thus I think UPG and PCPG helps us to understand them as they do so.

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Re: Poll: Traditional/New
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Post # 5
Considering that loki has always been with me for over ten years that im aware of, before i ever knew about online covens i can say that at least now we can exist without being referred to as a gang. It would be difficult if not impossible for me to conform. I couldnt pretend. Just knowing how i will be rejected inhibites me from wanting to interact in my local pagan community.
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Re: Poll: Traditional/New Age
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 6
I would never decry anybody's belief in whatever Deity they choose. But I was trained in witchcraft, and that, of itself, has no Deity. If I had to choose (and I do not!) I suppose I would choose the Sun and the Moon; the origins of Life.
So, I suppose, I am traditional.
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Re: Poll: Traditional/New Age
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Post # 7

Zombie revival!

First and foremost, which branch(es) of Heathenry do you conisder yourself closest to? (Eclectic, Traditional, Modern, Odinists, etc).

Definetly Lokean.

When it comes to working with Norse deities, do you feel that the practice should strive to be more traditional? Should the practice surrounding these deities adhere closer to cultural ideas or should is deviation okay?

Work how ever you want to with the Norse. Be it traditional or not.

Do you feel that New Age branches of Heathenry, such as Lokeanism, Rokkatru and including the Jotunfolk in work, is becoming more acceptable in modern society? Is this acceptable? Why or why not?

Well considering the stereotypical Asatru, not so much. But some do fin their way to and accept it.

What role, if any, do you believe that UPG and PCPG (unverified personal gnosis and peer collaborated personal gnosis, respectively) play in modern honoring of Norse deities? Do you use either of these in your own personal practice?

Of course. It may help us find out more about the Norse deities that the Scandanavians recorded, but lost such as information on Sigyn. I'm speaking in terms or what Raven Kaldera did. He recorded it down and published it. Some may not agree with UPG or PCPG, but it makes sense to me.

And I do. If I find out about something in my own practices that suits both me and the diety, then I will continue using that info in my practices.

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Re: Poll: Traditional/New Age
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 8

Braaaains!

  • First and foremost, which branch(es) of Heathenry do you conisder yourself closest to? (Eclectic, Traditional, Modern, Odinists, etc).

I consider myself closest to Rokkatru; faith of the shadow or twilight. This is not a traditional form of Heathenry due to Jotnar and Dokkalfar (the latter my personal association) not being worshipped traditionally, but I honor the lore and folklore of Iceland as much as I can. So, in essence, I am a modern Heathen with reconstruction sources.

  • When it comes to working with Norse deities, do you feel that the practice should strive to be more traditional? Should the practice surrounding these deities adhere closer to cultural ideas or should is deviation okay?

Deviation is fine if you don't use the religion to mask bigotry or other forms of hatred, as Neo-Nazis sometimes do. I'm also not fond of completely butchering who the deities were in order to fit an uneducated eclectic form. I'm not even fond of some of the commonly known conjecture of modern Heathens who don't butcher lore.

Personally, I think that people should do what they feel is best, so long as they start from knowing about Heathenry straight from the lore rather than reading other works on it. I've found a lot of common mistakes perpetuated by one or two "scholars" that have nothing to do with the actual lore.

  • Do you feel that New Age branches of Heathenry, such as Lokeanism, Rokkatru and including the Jotunfolk in work, is becoming more acceptable in modern society? Is this acceptable? Why or why not?

Being that I am Rokkatru, I feel the more modern forms are acceptable. However, I'm not fond if "Norse Wicca".

Lokeanism and Rokkatru at least pull from the lore and you're worshiping entities who were recognized as being real in the traditional Norse cultures.

  • What role, if any, do you believe that UPG and PCPG (unverified personal gnosis and peer collaborated personal gnosis, respectively) play in modern honoring of Norse deities? Do you use either of these in your own personal practice?

I use my own personal experience as well as PCPG (I prefer the term SPG - Shared Personal Gnosis) because if I go by the lore alone, my vaettir aren't really "there" in that they weren't written about as much as the Aesir or even Vanir.

Personal gnosis is important because it is an aspect of any religious person's life in that you have a personal understanding of your spirits and deities. Without that, you're "going to church" without really being a part of the religion itself. I hate that, honestly.

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