Predetermine vs Choice

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Predetermine vs Choice
Post # 1
this has been something i have been contemplating latetly.
people have said that spells are a way of changing your destiny and your life, but others have also argued that spells just let you branch off from your destiny but sooner or later you will wind up back in you "flow". Some even say that it was already predetermined to even do magick. I want to know everybody's view on this. All opinions are welcomed.
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Re: Predetermine vs Choice
By: / Novice
Post # 2
There are a lot of theories about choice verses predestination. Unfortunately, you don't get the truth until you check out. Personally, I operate believing that everything is a choice. Even if I am wrong, in the end at least I tried. But I don't believe I am. Though magic we have the ability to take conscious control over our evolution. Sadly, most people will never understand what that means.


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Re: Predetermine vs Choice
By: / Beginner
Post # 3
I for one don't really believe we have a destiny or fate, per se. I believe that, while we live, we have as full an area and scope of choice as is possible for us; I don't think we're set to do certain things, or have things go or sway towards a certain pre-determined direction, so this idea that the use of some form of magick "upsets the flow" or whatever it might be seems a bit preposterous; I don't believe we're flowing down the river of life, I would rather be it as being an open, current-less ocean, where we can swim to and from wherever we might please, if we have the means to do so.

As for the idea that everything is pre-determined, including that somebody would use magick to do something, the idea just seems strange. It would follow that every single action, every single word, every single thought, and so on, was somehow set to happen objectively, with no other occurrences. If somebody was to say that this kind of reality existed, but something happened that *wasn't* planned, then it would throw free-will into the equation, however small an amount of free will it might be, which, in turn, destroys the very notion of everything being pre-determined and planned in advance. This notion has always been seen as simply strange, and really rather pointless. It's a line of thinking which, as far as I can tell, doesn't mean or achieve anything.
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Re: Predetermine vs Choice
Post # 4
See, People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff (Thank you Doctor for this amazing explanation). See when you do something now, it affects the future. On your present course, you may be a hobo in the future. But then you enter a scholarship program because of a tarot reading and you become a doctor instead. Well if becoming a doctor was you future, why did the tarot say you were going to be a hobo? Its because that is what pushed you to be a doctor. If you had not done the reading, you would not necessarily have entered the scholarship program. M-Theory is very complex and I didn't even begin to scratch the surface of it just now. But feel safe in knowing your future is what you make it. So make the right choices now.
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