You need to get your facts straight boy! First the chaos star has nothing to do with any belief except chaos. It hasnt even been around that long. The road to knowledge is a long winding one. Filled with many pitfalls and traps. Do not worship false knowledge as truth and learn of what you speak. And speak of what you learn. These people have knowledge that can help you along your path. Instead of getting defensive and offended, listen to them. There super great! :D
When I have the time I will look up the evidence right now it would interfere with my college studies also it is a little boring to look up stuff you already know, and witchcraft by the way was invented way before wicca was, wicca is a modern version of witchcraft, witchcraft was made before a long time ago and then people wanted to serve other gods other than the green man and the horned one, some say even the horned one was a cover up of the works of satan, of course some people think differently some people think the horned one is a god some think he's satan, but that point doesn't matter, anyways I know I am right and I didn't have to research this a minute ago, I have been into magick a long time ago, for instance in alchemy you can offer a body part of your own body and offer it to satan or god in order for you to gain something of equal or greater value such as if you say " Satan, I give you a small part of my arm bone in order to have (whatever power you want) And now I sacrifice it to you" then you feel the energy around the bone you give up or whatever body part you want to give up, even if it's just a splinter of bone then you will get what you want, and amazingly it's quite effective. And in wicca of course not all spells rhyme but most do I agree with you there, but anyways like in sorcery you use the power of 7 and usually in spells something has to do with 7 like making a 7 feet circle with a 3 foot circle inside it and you kneel in both the 3 foot circle and the 7 foot circle so the spirits are bound to you as well as not being carried away from the spirits into the air, or you walk around a circle 7 times and summon energy and ask or tell the spirit to do something, anyways I do have my own book of shadows which I will not share with anyone, I have a spell book as big as a sketch or drawing book whatever you want to call it with a few extra pages added on to it, so it's not like I never did a spell LOL! I do have my own spells and honest to the gods I have been doing them. So please don't say I never have done anything, also I do in fact have a spell for invisibility but it works half of the time, I do have another invisible spell that only works when I close my eyes, so to tell you the truth I don't even know why I asked for invisibility spells, well I guess I wanted stronger ones, but anyways I will be open to your beliefs or your ideas, but I do know that the things I said were true,also in magick often times you do control a spirit if you don't have total control then the spirit may attack you, not do what you want them to do, or they possess you or some darn thing, I have seen a long time ago a documentary and read a book sorry I forgot what the book was called but it said often times you control a spirit for example with a circle in order for you to speek to them and make them do your bidding, that right there is proof enough, oh yeah the books were wicca and witchcraft books, also a satanist would say no don't use a circle to control a spirit or demon because they think it's disrespectful and the demons don't like it, anyways lets not talk about this anymore but lets just agree to disagree, also in the documentary almost the whole definition of magick is to control your life, spirits, or events in your life or someone elses life. So yeah, it was a documentary about magick and witchcraft, also yes I know sometimes you do ask for things or pretty much say " hey spirit I will let you do whatever you can do this if you want or don't want to" but I think controling spirits is done way more in magick then letting them do whatever they want. Anyways got to go.
One last thing and we are done talking, I am to busy, like all the time now, plus you are asking me to look up stuff I already know, why don't you look it up, also there's info on the three wise men or also called the three mages, they were a few of the first magicians and astrologers and astronomy people, anyways I got to go, like I said I am busy, and plus dude I would much rather not talk about anything, I don't even want to visit this thread anymore I will try not to, unless someone actually will give me pretty awesome spells I could add to my book of spells, I just want more spells I can practice. Of course my spells are made by myself, and other peoples spells I will only use to practice them.
