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Re: Good & Evil??
By: / Novice
Post # 9
It wasn't that the person I was referring to was thought of as evil. It actually radiated out from him. People who did not know him, know what cell he was in, or have a clue about him personally would feel it when he was close. Believe me or not, but there is evil.

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Shawn.
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Re: Good & Evil??
By: / Novice
Post # 10
But is he radiating evil or is it just intimidation? To me evil is an action beyond redemption and for that to be true the individual must also view themselves as evil. This thread has however got me thinking. Does remorse mean that the individual was evil? By my current definition, yes it does, as the individual regrets there actions then even to them the act was indeed evil but clearly that individual is socially less evil than the remorseless killer. So obviously my logic is extremely flawed.

The issue, as Raven said, is defining evil. What most people think of as evil is actually fairly natural, animals will only ever really do what benefits themselves without really any exceptions (selfish gene theory). So if anything evil has just been labeled whereas good is the invention of man. I always find it humorous how we refer to animals as acting naturally but humans as evil.
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Re: Good & Evil??
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Post # 11
No matter how you look at it,we live in a very confusing world.
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Re: Good & Evil??
By: / Novice
Post # 12
I'm not that easily intimidated. Lol! He was not physically intimidating, in fact he was rather puny. I'm not a big guy, but I have trained spec ops groups in hand to hand combat, I've been in live combat zones, And I've some some spiritual things that would make Sam and Dean wimper like little babies. :) This guy was evil. No intimidation, not violent, and not scary. Just evil.

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Shawn.
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Re: Good & Evil??
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 13
I never disclaim there isn't darkness. There are two levels of darkness in my opinion. Darkness (that still contains some but not much light) and then pure darkness (that which lacks all light).

Most beings have the capability to love, even for one thing. But pure darkness loves nothing, not even itself. It lives to harm, to hate, and derives pleasure from it in some instances. I believe that if I were to accept any definition or existence (for that matter) of "evil" it would be "that which lacks all love, compassion, kindness, respect or honor." But there are few in this world that actually fit this criteria and just as few that lack all darkness.

Almost every spirit and physical being contains both sides regardless of which one they embrace more. I believe that everyone should accept their shadow side, and that it shouldn't be feared because it apart of us and everything in this world. The only "danger" is if we lose all sight of the light, which is very hard to do. But I would say, unfortunately, that man you speak of may have. I believe the word "evil" is used far too frivolously, but if you can label only one or two things you have encountered "evil", then you're on the right track.
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Re: Good & Evil??
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Post # 14
I think there is good and bad but it depends on how you look at it, for example, if you kill someone, people think you're evil, but if you killed Hitler, then it would be a good deed for the people of anti-Nazi countries, but would have been an evil deed for the people who were pro-Nazi.
Torture is also seen as evil, but when countries use torture to get information, it's ok, but to the torturee's countrymen, it is an evil act.
Nine-Eleven was considered a very evil action by Americans, but was seen as a selfless and praise-worthy act by the terrorists.
This list can keep going on, but the point is that there is always going to be at least one group of people who think it is a good deed, and at least one group who thinks it is an evil deed.
-Nikita.
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Re: Good & Evil??
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Post # 15
great discussion I've just been reading through all your comments. As I longed of last night as it was 1:30am here when I finally logged off :-/ lol. Anyway it is very confusing I agree. As for animals yes they do kill but the main reason they'd kill is for food & also if they have a fight for survival like if a another predator try's to take there area, female or worse attack there pack & harm there young. We're slightly different to animals not saying we're better due to the fact I respect all life even a tree's. Just because we can speak I don't think our life is worth more. Anyway the debate I have is some people say there's no evil and murder is not considered to be evil. In some cases' if it's self deference, if some-one's harmed you kid's etc then we could understand there murder but in the case of a child killer or serial killer then we can't possibly say there's no evil! ? That's just my opinion that there must be evil to remain the balance. What do you think of demons are they evil?
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Re: Good & Evil??
By: / Beginner
Post # 16
The Law of Duality

The universe as we know it is governed by several laws, some of them being, the law of gravity, law of thermodynamics, the much-talked about law of attraction and of course, the law of duality. The Law of Duality manifests in nature as pairs of opposites, equal in strength and power. One cannot do without the other. Light and Darkness, Happy and Sad, Good and Evil, Christ and Satan are some examples of duality. You cannot understand one without the other. It is a tad bit immature to embrace one and reject the other, because the rejected aspect will creep up on you. You cannot hide from it. I would honestly be worried about meeting a magician who says he only deals with dark arts or practices white (for want of a better word, not referring to colour here) magic. To me, he would be a half-baked practitioner of magic. Good and evil, since it?s mentioned here, are like two sides of the same coin. You cannot put one side of a coin in your pocket, can you? You have to take the whole coin. And they key to dealing with duality is balance.

Having said this, I don?t know if I?m in a position to decide what?s good and what?s evil. What may be good to me, might be evil to you and vice-versa. This is a matter of perception which is usually influenced by social norms.

Tina
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Re: Good & Evil??
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 17
"As for animals yes they do kill but the main reason they'd kill is for food & also if they have a fight for survival like if a another predator try's to take there area, female or worse attack there pack & harm there young. We're slightly different to animals not saying we're better due to the fact I respect all life even a tree's. Just because we can speak I don't think our life is worth more."

You're mistaken here Maple. Animals fight and kill for territory. How many people believe in harming and killing intruders? A males will fight and even kill over a single female. I see men fight over a single woman all the time! With many animals, males will kill the babies if the females don't protect them. Many animals have had rare and wild occurrances of wild animals killing people and not for food (check out the Tsavo Lions as just one example). They are the "murderers" of the furry animal kingdom. They called them "evil" too. Oh I could go on!

We are not slightly different than animals, we ARE animals, albeit a complex one. And animals can and do speak. Scientists are just beginning to scratch the surface of animal languages. So just because they don't speak our language, doesn't mean they don't speak to each other. Just as with us, language is both body language, facial expression and verbal use.
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Re: Good & Evil??
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Post # 18
well I'm more confused then ever. As for magick I do think we need all forms of magick but I choose not to cast hex's but I do cast binding spells. I hold my hands up I only what I know about animals but not studied them fully, thanks all for the comments.
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