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Re: LBRP and belief...
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seriously dont do it, the lbrp in my opinion is the wrong ritual to peform especially if you are a satanist. There are many, more powerfull rituals you can peform than the ones jewish make. I don't trust anything they put out they even claim the kabbalah as there creation which is not true, they usually just alter the real stuff and attach spells on it..
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Re: LBRP and belief...
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"There are many, more powerfull rituals you can peform than the ones jewish make."

The LBRP is not a Jewish ritual, it is a Hermetic ritual.
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i havent studied exactly were it came from i know it was derived from hebrew language?
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If you are uncomfortable with the God names in the original ritual just use your own with appropiate attributions for each quarter.

i.e. perhaps Poseidon for west etc. or hoever you work with.

I realise this is badly written and explained but hey its late.
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i havent studied exactly were it came from i know it was derived from hebrew language?
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It was developed by members of the relatively recent Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (founded in late 1800s). Hermeticism itself draws primarily with things developed in and near the Middle East, going as far out as Greece, Egypt, and India. Obviously a great deal of this is from the Abrahamic tradition, plus most of these people were raised within a Judeo-Christian mindset and so these particular names and symbols were most familiar and meaningful to the folks who made this ritual. Their use of Jewish mysticism made them about as Jewish as believing in chakras makes you and I Hindu.
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i know what hermeticism is ive studied my fair share of it and hermetic derives from egyptain/greek god thoth. Thats why i completely disagree with the lbrp the chants are in hebrew it seems and they evoke archangels gabriel and micheal.. The golden dawn seems to go completely against what hermetic is. Which is polythiesm and pagan. Thoth told me himself that alot of his teachings have been altered and to not follow them and it shows by all these judeo christian type rituals... Yuck*
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Hermeticism is not merely the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus. It sort of fell into obscurity for a while and was revived during the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, at which point it became the sort of homogenous Western tradition it is today.

The Golden Dawn was founded a few hundred years after Abrahamic mysticism found its way into Hermeticism.
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My goodness, chiron. I used to be so scared of takign ideas and spells from the kabbalah because I thought it was jewish. Wow, I never even thought of hermetic. i've studied over secret societies and the Golden dawn interests me. When I get 18 I'm totally joining X3
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There actually are a LOT of Jewish rituals that non Jews just don't know about. Everytime we do a Seder we're doing a ritual. Our entire service is incredibly ritualistic. There are a lot of rituals we have, but none of them deal with magic. Folk magic in Judaism isn't accepted as being Halachic. It's just kind of done and a blind eye is turned to it. We're less likely to think of G-d than other religions when we want to create change. We don't really do the whole miracle thing.
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