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Re: about Lucifer
By: / Beginner
Post # 11
Snakes are sly
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Re: about Lucifer
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Post # 12
Hello. Sorry to answer late. If you're still up to knowing about Him, and you still are a satanist, find out that He is not evil, but misunderstood. He decieves even his people, and watch for that. He isn't testing you, but teaches you lessons hard-way. Always. He, Himself always does the things hard-way and he criticises himself whenever his actions are less than expected. Being like that to Himself, he does same to others. Rather than try to understand Him, try to get what He tries to teach you. I also know about Him from personal experience. If you want a better understanding, ask Him to come to your astral temple (if you have one) or in a dream (if you know how to lucid-dream). He is quite busy, but He makes time for his dedicated people.
Bless you,
Serena :*
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Re: about Lucifer
By: / Beginner
Post # 13
"In my opinion", human is evil, corrupts laws and the life balance. Religion seems to be for me, just something where people can put they hateful feelings, cover their dark desires, and use as excuse for what they do of "wrong". As I heard a lot, if someone does something bad or evil, this happened because bad spirits and demons...is more easy to blame a spirit or something that no exists than assume their bad acts. Each religion defines what is wrong or right, if any "entity" is evil or good. I don't trust at this point, I believe in receive more knowledge from "Lucifer" for example, but I have complete responsability of what I am going to do with my knowledge, bad or good is up to me, not with the entity. (But remember, this is just an OPINION, I am not arguing with people beliefs)
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Re: about Lucifer
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Post # 14
Lucifer is not evil. He's not satan. Satan is the devil. Lucifer and satan are two different entities altogether. Satan is hating. Lucifer is not. He got in trouble many times for helping humans. Look about the tree of evil things. When humans ate the fruit. They got knowledge not a bunch of evil. He taught us about knowledge.
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Re: about Lucifer
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 15
There are so many different versions of Lucifer. He (or it!) means many things to many people.Some see Lucifer as "the giver of light".Do you know that the first match to be able to be "struck" was called A Lucifer? Because it gave light!
In the song Pack Up Your Troubles, there is a line that says "Whilst you've a Lucifer to light your pipe"
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Re: about Lucifer
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Post # 16
There is lucifer (the actual name, or rather its Hebrew counterpart) mentioned in the bible, the seprent in the Garden (which I believe some people label Lilith for some reason), and then you have the name Satan which simply means adversary, or opposer- someone who opposes God.

So there can be many Satans! And from a Christian point of view, Lucifer disobeyed God and rebelled, therefore he was Satan to God, i.e. God's opposition.

However, the concept of Satan is not necessarily an evil one. Evil is a subjective label. I have recently been listening to an excellent series of podcasts on the concept of Satan.

It is all a matter of where you stand, to me the God of the old testament who commits genocide, kills children, and does a litany of other horrid things is far worse than the character of Satan.....in my opinion.

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Re: about Lucifer
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Post # 17

I can't express how grateful I am that someone (Hadit) mentioned the difference between the Hebrew and Christian versions of Lucifer. In Judaism, Lucifer is considered evil for the very reason that he being "Satan" is exactly how Hadit explained. In Christianity we see Pride being his ultimate downfall but not in the way that his Hebrew predecessor expressed it. He was pretty and rich; and he knew it.

Lucifer is a very old name, older than Judaism/Christianity. "Satan" is a Hebrew term simply describing the King of Hell. Even in Judaism, Lucifer is not the original or rather first Satan.

Do some reading into it, you won't be damned for it. It's very enlightening to learn about the origins of commonly discussed demons and angels.

Angels themselves weren't always perfect in their own light which adds a bit of a twist to the plot, if you will. In all honesty the Hebrew Lucifer was probably punished more or less because he was too headstrong to keep quiet about how he felt towards humanity as opposed to the more obedient willing of Raphael.

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