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Misc Question.
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Has anyone heard of or encountered something called the four gardians of protection or something similar? They take the form of animals I have heard of in one case a pheonix, eagle, crow, and unicorn. In another case the pheonix is replaced by a griffen or a lion and the unicorn by a tiger or some such cat. Just wondering if anyone had any idea as to what these things are or if they even exist.
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I have never heard of them but i have the feelimg you are talkimg about the four watch tower/ the four arch angels depending on your pantheon
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I have never heard of such. Please elaborate.
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The closest thing i've ever heard of is the gardians of the four watch towers of the univers,they are suposed to be angels,i don't know if these are the same as the gardians you're talking about or what.
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I am shure these guardians are the same as those you speak of. What are these watchtower guardians or what do they do?
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It all depends on the tradition's point of view about these watchtowers, as example some traditions considere them as the four physical elements, other as think of them as four angels, others simply say they are the forces that rule the physical plane. Alltough this is a really basic concept if anyone wants to extend/correct our knowledge about this it would be appreciated. Sorry for all the spelling and grammar mistakes, i'm not good at english
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A Watchtower is a spirit guardian of one of the four cardinal points in both ceremonial magic and the neopagan religion of Wicca. Alternately, the Watchtowers are the abodes of the guardians. Often believed to represent the four elements, the Watchtowers are invoked during ritual to cast the magic circle. They may be pictured in the imagination or represented with tablets or other physical symbols.
In many Wicca and Witchcraft systems the Watchtowers are evocational symbols of spiritual beings known as the Watchers. Each Watchtower is associated with one of the four quarters of north, east, south and west. In some traditions the Watchtowers are associated with the four elements of earth, air, fire, and water. They are also each linked to a specific star. The north Watchtower is Fomalhaut, the east is Aldebaran, Regulus marks the south, and Antares is the west. Archangels are also used; the North / Earth Watchtower is Uriel, the East / Air Watchtower is Raphael, the South / Fire Watchtower is Michael, and the West / Water Watchtower is Gabriel.

Info from google lol Hope this helps
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Birdofwisdom provided decent information on 'Watchtowers' above, and that may very well be what you are referring to. However, there could be some alternatives. Such as:

The Shijin within Chinese mythology. The Shijin are four spiritual creatures which guard each direction of the compass, North, East, South and West. The creatures are the tortoise, white tiger, phoenix and dragon. However, you mentioned an eagle and crow (although you said the unicorn is sometimes replaced by a tiger or similar felines). The Shijin are also alike to the Buddhist concept of the ''Four Heavenly Kings''.

On the other hand, I got little results when I researched the phoenix, eagle, crow and unicorn together, even when replaced with the alternatives you mentioned. In this case, I have little idea to exactly what the 'four guardians of protection' are.

However, providing the symbolism of each animal may help you:


Phoenix:
The phoenix is used widely in Chinese folklore and alchemy. To the Chinese, this mythological bird is represents with good fortune, opportunity, and luck. It also conveys to us strength and resilience in the symbolic rising from its own ashes and soaring to greater heights. The Phoenix is said to be a 'Yang' symbol and is associated with fire energies and the four winds. As a point of focus within spirituality, the Phoenix is believed to evoke in us the five human qualities of good cosmic energy which are virtue, alignment, duty, loyalty and compassion.

In alchemy, the phoenix symbolizes the alchemical process of death and rebirth- it represents the purifying and transforming fire. It reminds us of our ability to regenerate, and our power within transformation.


Lion:
''The lion animal alchemy symbol is held in the highest regards of the tradition. So much so that it symbolizes gold or the sun- the very highest characteristics of ascension and enlightenment. Furthermore, due to its virility, strength, and perceived courage, the lion was seen as the ultimate protector of alchemical secrets, as well as keeper of the underworld.

It's interesting that the lion is considered by many ancient cultures to be a solar animal symbol, however it is primarily a nocturnal creature, conducting its hunting activity mostly at night. Further, the lioness is considered a lunar animal.

This serves as a symbolic message of balance and sound judgment. In that the lion shares the world of both night and day, the lion bears a message of prudence to us. In other words, the lion asks us to not overdo in certain areas of our lives. Rather, keep an even mind and an overall balance in our life activities.''

In general, the lion represents courage, strength, justice, wisdom, power and dignity.


Crow:
I find the crow such an interesting, and most of all, misunderstood animal. Highly enthusiastic, and a natural charmer.

''Everyone recognizes the Crow's easy energy, and everyone turns to the Crow for his/her ideas and opinions. This is because the Crow is both idealistic and diplomatic and is quite ingenious. In nurturing environments this animal symbol is easy-going, can be romantic, and soft-spoken. Further, the crow can be quite patient, and intuitive in relationships. Left to his/her own devices, the Crow is believed to be demanding, inconsistent, vindictive, and abrasive.''

They do what they want, when they want and they'll blatantly tell you to "shove it" if you don't like it! You've got to admire that kind of gumption and bluntness. As Celtic animal symbols, the crow stands for individuality with blatant disregard to what others think.

''The crow is deeply honored by the Celts as an augury oracle. Crows were rumored to carry big secrets stuffed betwixt their black feathers. Celts knew this, and were wise to let them have their way (indeed, killing a crow was a felony under traditional Druidic rule).''


Unicorn:
As we all know, the unicorn is purely a mythological creature. To me, the unicorn represents innocence, wonder, prosperity and purity.

The unicorn is a proud, noble, powerful, fiercely courageous creature who is also gentle, beneficent to his fellow creatures, and happily serene in the end. The unicorn can be seen in art throughout time and it has come to symbolize many things, both Christian and secular.

Unfortunately, I know little else on the unicorn.

For information about the lion and crow (parts in quotes), I used whats-your-sign.com, a fantastic animal symbolism site, as a source/reference.
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I am very impressed with all the knowledge put forth and I thank you all for taking the time to help me. Now this is the reason why I ask. Sometimes when I am in medetation or when I am reading something I will get these bouts of past life memory or something of that nature. One of the things that I see is these four creatures on a carving in a stone wall. They are sitting at the cardnial points of a yin/yang symbol. It seems to be a monastary or something of that nature. I have also seen a gold chain/medalion with this same type of structure except their are more animals around the yin/yang symbol. The middle line of the symbol is like a lightingbolt going down and around. The crow sits at the top left followed down the left by the tiger and then a spider or snake. On the right on top is the eagle then a monkey and finally a dragon. Sometimes the symbols will change when I see them. Then the middle will open up revealing three more animals in the middle. The unicorn on top the pheonix or griffen in the middle and a scorpian at the bottom. I began to research these and one of the answers I got was the gardians of protection.
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Many Ideals in cultures take in place four or More guarians Such as Dragons, Mythical creatures, Winds, Gods, Elements, etc.

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