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lucifer vs. god
By: / Beginner
Post # 1
lately i have been praying for things to happen.like my mums bf stole our moving money.i prayed to lucifer and god to reveal who stole it and give a sign to my mum. my mum said she hope if he stole it,his truck breakdwn..well it did the same nite and she found out he stole and spent the money...i pray to both gods.ur opinion plz
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Re: lucifer vs. god
By: / Beginner
Post # 2
the reason i pray to both is im stuck in between..i cnt choose one..nothing bad happens from it. or atleast i dnt notice. but is there anyone else who prays to both? or wat do you think?
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Re: lucifer vs. god
By: / Novice
Post # 3
there's no way of proving which one did it since you prayed to both. if you pray to one then a week later to the other maybe. it comes down to faith and i don't want to start a fight, but Lucifer is a fallen angel who tempts people, god has mood swings just look at the old testament vs the new. granted lucifer was pulling the strings sometimes but god could be rather spiteful himself. i like to look at Job [pronounced jobe] as an example of this. he was a religious man who worshiped god and was the most loyal follower you could imagine, he had the perfect life, he was wealthy with a loving family, lots of land, and every luxury imaginable. lucifer told god that Job wouldn't be so praising if he wasn't so happy. so god took EVERYTHING away, he killed Job's family, took away his wealth, and destroyed his home in one swoop. despite this Job never cursed god, but himself for letting it happen.

as i said, it's faith, worship who you think is worthy.
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Re: lucifer vs. god
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Post # 4
well... I pray to God and to my love ones who aren't here anymore. for me that helps... I didn't hear or knew that some persons pray to both of them but if that helps for you I think go for it... It's not like anyone could stop you.
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Re: lucifer vs. god
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Post # 5
My systems of beliefs is a bit more complex than that.

I believe that the monotheistic God is just the Demiurge, the creator of this material world, but not of the Universe. The True God (Abraxas) is the one who created the Universe and endowed us with the potential to become gods ourselves. But the Demiurge had created this material world, full of temptations, carnal pleasures and distractions in order to repress our higher selves and forget our purpose (to ascend / become gods ourselves/ gradually release the unconscious into our consciousness)

For me, Lucifer and Satan are two different entities.
Satan was the one who was expelled from Heaven because he tried to usurp the True God, and in order to get revenge he created this world of matter (Hell itself)
Lucifer is the Angel of Light, who stands on the right hand of the True God. He's the brightest Angel and one of the good guys.

Anyhow, you should look into the Law of Attraction.( the movie The Secret is a god way to start, but it can see a bit new aggie) I don;t think it was necessarily related to your praying, but to the energies that you released in the Universe.

Best of Luck!
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Re: lucifer vs. god
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Post # 6
My personal opinion is that the christian god just took credit for some one elses work and lied to a few humans
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Re: lucifer vs. god
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 7
In traditional doctrine lucifer was the morning star, the highest angel. He was created by god. In traditional doctrine, all things are of god, and only man has free will.

If that is the case, then Lucifer only does god's bidding. Praying to him is just like praying to any other angel, who will only work at the bidding of god.
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Re: lucifer vs. god
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Post # 8
Ha :) Well, maybe God is not doing it since your praying to Lucifer. And Lucifer can be a little mandatory so offer him something.
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Re: lucifer vs. god
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Post # 9
i have summoned Lucifer and i can say one thing he is the total opposite of God in almost every aspect form or nature i believe that Lucifer does not do the binding of God and with the FREE WILL THING from the bible i understood that at the begining every being even humans did the biding of God but Lucifer said to Eve that if she will eat the fruit she will be like God and she will know the difference between good and evil and that she will not die he actualy meant that humans will be like god to decide what to do with their lifes FREE WILL also humans decide if they want to be good or evil and he was right about the death thing too the body dies but the soul still lives what i try to say is that spirits have free will also they decide if they will or will not help you and that we didin't have free will at first but because of Lucifer we have and now we are not slaves to the biding of God anymore we decide if we are or not slaves to God when he turned againts God it was his choice he did that on purpose with his free will so as i see it the only angel who did not have the biding of God's will was the strongest and the most beautifull angel Lucifer who had free will from the begining and he spread it to us all and just because God lost His total control He made rumors about Lucifer being evil BLA BLA BLA CRAP but the truth is if Lucifer did not turned againts God we would still be at God's will
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Re: lucifer vs. god
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 10
This thread has been moved to Misc Topics from General Info.
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