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possible and impossible
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I know i am knew here but i hsve been keeping up with this site for a long time and i have seen people being put down for stuff like shapeshifting, invisibility, levitation,creatures, ect. I would like to weigh in on this. First of all shapeshifting is very possible on the astral plane and is an incredible experience. Also on this sight you say you cannot change your body physically. Well what do you think health spells are, they make slight changes in your biochemistry that make you healthier, plus i have tried werewolf spells before and while they do not turn you into a werewolf some of them can increase your wolf like properties such as strength, speed, senses ect and have any of you ever heard of biokinesis. Theoretically it would pe possible to manipulate your dna, however it would take long years of energy practice and would be extremely dangerous. You also look down on invisibility. We have proven through extensive tests that through hypnosis we can hypnotize someone to think that something is invisible to the point where the person can actually see through the object. Levitation is possible though not through spells.have any of you ever studied the genius works of franz bardon and how you must master elemental air in order to levitate it is also possible through possesion. Also alot of you are saying that magical creatures such as dragons, vampires, werewolves, ect are not real. Well first of all how do you know, have you searched the entire universe and found no such things, no you have not for all we know they could be real and they are certainly real in the astral realm.
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Re: possible and impossible
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 2
This is an argument that has always been around and will always be around. I feel very strongly about this, so I will express my opinions. Newcomers tend to get the wrong ideas from posts like this. Some things are possible on the astral. Yes. But that is not this plane. So if saying something is possible it is best to clarify that it is not possible here, or newbies will get the wrong ideas. I do not agree with biokinesis: I do not think humans can alter themselves in such a way. The complexities of the human body, DNA, genes, chromosomes, molecules- these are above our ability to manipulate via magick. Currently, I would deem that an impossibility. We have limitations. We are human. Hence why I disagree with those who claim to control the elements, bend it tithe it will and manipulate it so physically: such as what levitation would call for. On this plane, there are universal laws and physics which must be obeyed. Magick tends to follow these. It does not go against them. As stated above, some of those things are possible inthe astral because it is completely different from this realm: but there is distinction between the two and definitely a difference in possibility. Hypothetically, you could argue that these things may be more easily achievable in the future- and who is to say? But currently, on this plane, most are not plausible.
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Re: possible and impossible
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 3
This thread has been moved to Misc Topics from Comments.
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Re: possible and impossible
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 4
Personified is correct in every detail.
There is cloning, of course, but that is not quite the same thing as shape shifting.
With a lifetime in Showbusiness I have seen many stage "magicians" do some very strange things. I worked on the same Bill as one guy who had a girl suspended between two chairs, and she could bear the weight of a thirteen stone man. But that was the strength of the girl; not magic!
The medical profession now has such skills as artificial hearts, even transplanting a pig's heart valve into a human.Human tissue has been "grown" in a laboratory.But these things are taking one part of nature to replace another. It is not, by any stretch of the imagination, magic!
Magic, as Personified so lucidly put it, follows the natural laws.
There is far too much rubbish on this site (not sight!) to mislead the young and vulnerable.
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Re: possible and impossible
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Post # 5
actually i do believe biokinesis is real but it isn't magic. it is an ability that metahumans have.
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Re: possible and impossible
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Post # 6
freethinker7 you worded that perfectly. I completely agree with you in everything you said.
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Re: possible and impossible
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Post # 7
Thank you unrelivent, anyway when i was younge and a begginner in magick i too believed thay you could change forms and fly just by saying a few words however eventually i learned that magick isnt like that. Also i dont see why levitation is strictly agsinst the laws of this plain, scientists have levitated water filled animals such as frogs before using intense electromagnetic fields and if the brain.or some god or spirit had practised enough with energy work they could possibly generate thos same em fields and, in theory, fly. Howevery if i had to choose between levitation and astral projection then astral projection would be the most useful
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Re: possible and impossible
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Post # 8
Your right about hypnosis. However to do so on such a scale that many people would not see you seems a bit absurd. Hypnosis is hard to do on the spot and not all people succumb to it. Also your not truly making yourself invisible, or changing into another creature, your just manipulating that person into believing you have.

As for the comment about "mythical creatures" I would not refute their existence because I have not seen the entirety of our planet. However I do not believe that a person could become one. We are human and regardless of how bad people would love to change that, we always will be in this life.
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Re: possible and impossible
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Thats true, unless genetic engineering comes into play on humans of course
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