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The Celestial Battlefield
By: / Beginner
Post # 1
I contemplated whether to put this under Astral Projection or Misc., but I decided that this was most fitting.

What are your thoughts on celestial warfare? What side are you on? Do you think it even exists?
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Re: The Celestial Battlefield
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Post # 2

If you are referring to the battle of "good" vs. "evil"... sure it exists. It exists inside each and every one of us. The desire to better ourselves is a part of it. If you mean it in the terms of "God" vs. "Satan" then I do not. These religious ideals were designed as a reason to give us hope, and to help us to strive to be better people. I am not refuting the claims, but to me they are just stories meant to teach us life lessons :)

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Re: The Celestial Battlefield
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 3
There is conflict in everything. Everything strives for balance, but balance is itself an impermanent state. Opposite forces clash together, and for a moment are balanced, and then separate again.

This is conflict. This is everything.

Does this mean there is "celestial warfare?" Not really. To my experience, most of the various places you can explore astrally are rather peaceful. What you bring with you when you explore will very much influence what you find. If you go out looking for a fight, you will find it.
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Re: The Celestial Battlefield
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 4

Make love not war and give peace a chance. I agree with the previous posts.

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Re: The Celestial Battlefield
By: / Beginner
Post # 5
So it is ok for evil to continue, and that we just need to tolerate it?
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Re: The Celestial Battlefield
By: / Beginner
Post # 6
without evil there can be no good so it must be good to be evil sometimes

although its a quote from the south park movie i have to agree with it if there without darkness light couldn't exist
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Re: The Celestial Battlefield
By: / Novice
Post # 7
never given it much thought. but it's like the Yin Yang, there's two sides to everything, masculine/feminine black/white whater/fire good/evil. [also the wavy line means life is not a straight path, and the different coloured dots means in good there is evil, though that's not what the colours represent] i don't really believe in an all powerful evil being, nor an all powerful good being. there is both in everyone and everything, some times we are extra good, and some we are extra evil, but nothings fully good or bad.
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Re: The Celestial Battlefield
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 8
In the beginning of all things, wisdom and knowledge were with the animals, for Tirawa, the One Above, did not speak directly to man. He sent certain animals to tell men that he showed himself through the beast, and that from them, and from the stars and the sun and moon should man learn.. all things tell of Tirawa. All things in the world are two. In our minds we are two, good and evil. With our eyes we see two things, things that are fair and things that are ugly.... We have the right hand that strikes and makes for evil, and we have the left hand full of kindness, near the heart. One foot may lead us to an evil way, the other foot may lead us to a good. So are all things two, all two.
Eagle Chief(Letakos-Lesa) Pawnee

The point is, we cannot get rid of what is a natural balance in everything. I personally do not believe in good and evil. I believe in a side of creation/preservation and another of destruction. Good and evil are man made ideas.

But despite what you call it, to remove one side, the other cannot exist. And if neither side exists, we have no purpose. Nature is both, therefore our creator is both. We are apart of nature, therefore we have both sides in us. This is why balance is important and why war is natural. War is a fight for balance. It doesn't always work out in favor of balance, but the "right" side is in the eye of the beholder. Each side believes they are right. Accept the world for what it is and marvel at the amazing forces before you. When you shun one side, or wish to obliterate it, you shun apart of yourself, and then you are no longer balanced. Accepting the shadow side of nature doesn't mean we must embrace it, it just means we can respect its purpose and place in the world and in ourselves.
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Re: The Celestial Battlefield
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 9
When you go looking for evil, you're going to find it even where it does not exist. If you want to fight such things, do so by leading by example. Be generous, take care of the world around you, be humble, extend courtesy... so on, so forth. This has far more of an impact than going out and picking a fight.
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