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Re: Lucid Dream Arc or AP?
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 5
Ok, let's explore this topic a bit.
Lucid dreams and OBE are very closely related. Lucid dreaming is creating a world in your mind. This is where your mind rules, which is why you can control everything. When you can switch scenes, change behavior of those around you, and overall control EVERYTHING and ANYTHING, this is lucid dreaming. OBE is exploring the astral around you, but due to you being asleep, your subconscious can cause you to see things differently or create things that are not truly there (as it does during sleep walking). Depending on the level of lucidity, you can either change things as you watch the movie unravel or control the entire thing as if it is your own imagined story with a few subconscious surprises along the way. When you cannot control what is around you but you are consciously aware and in control of your own actions (not like watching a movie), and your senses are sharp, this is OBE.

What it sounds like is that you used to lucid dream but now you are experiencing OBEs (out of body experiences)

How do you stop this? Ground if its an OBE. I used to wear hematite necklaces and bracelets when sleeping.

For lucid dreaming, you need to retrain yourself how to gain better control. There are many books out there on lucid dreaming from both spiritual and psychological perspectives. I would pick one with both.
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Re: Lucid Dream Arc or AP?
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Okay, if this is astral projection (which it probably is) these "attackers" are a serious problem that you need to deal with. Defensive and protective rituals/spells are important and should be done whether you project or not. With that out of the way, I would suggest talking to these figures that keep coming after you. What you need to know, above all else, is that YOU CAN NOT BE HARMED. It is impossible to hurt a spirit unless you convince it that it can be hurt. As long as you know that you can't feel pain or be hurt while you are projecting these figures will have no power over you. If you are ever scared, call upon the angels. It is as simple as just thinking "help me angels" or "angels come" and believing that it will work (emphasis on BELIEVING, the most crucial element) and you will be safe no matter what. Angels are very much the police force of the astral plane and will look out for anyone who requests their help.
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I believe you should calmly assess this yourself. Precaution should be set but this depends on you. Hopefully those dreams or astral projections cease. Only you can decide how to act on the problem. My advice stand you ground and be ready.
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Re: Lucid Dream Arc or AP?
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It is a common misconception that 'Lucid Dreaming' is controlling your dreams. Lucid dreaming is simply the awareness that you are dreaming, whereas once you start controlling your dreams, it becomes a 'Controlled Dream.'

In regards to your question, it sounds like a OBE to me however you are aware and able to control this OBE. It's almost like a mix up between the two.

As Raven said, wearing hematite can help. Also, amethyst or citrine near you at the time can also aid with these dreams.

Dreams are often projections of your subconscious mind. Negative dreams are usually due to stress, a hidden fear, or things as such. Is there anything that you are worried about? In this dream, when I consider the fact that you rewind and change things, it makes me wonder if you are regretful about something that has happened in the past that you wish to change.
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Re: Lucid Dream Arc or AP?
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 9
Its true that basic lucid dreaming is just being aware, but the more advanced form of it is controlling them, and that is what most people who strive for lucid dreaming desire to do. Really, it doesn't matter what the terminology of it is, what matters is, whether it is still just a dream vs OBE.

I, like nightflyer, used to control my dreams as a child. I used to call them movies in my head. I used to even switch them at will, when they became "nightmares" to something pleasant. I pushed away the ability when I grew older and I never had the desire to get it back. I found dreaming every night, knowing I was dreaming, and controlling it was nice, but I find more enjoyment from just plainly remembering my dreams and interpretting what my subconscious can tell me about myself.
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Im new to this site,but if its obe,when you realize its a obe picture a white cord running from your tail bone(lower spine) to the ground or bed that your body is in.you kind of slam back into your body and jump awake,but your where you want to be.just try it and then you will at least know if its obe.hope this helps.
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Iv reread what you wrote about the fear you feel and not knowing when you will have a dream like that. Id say say you know that its most likely that you will. So you should just prepare for it every time. Cleans, seasalt bath every nite meditation calm your self.and protection like the others on here are telling you. But most of all control your fear! You know you can out run,desinagrate them and fly away. They feed off fear so dont give it to them. And maybe one of the ones who want you to stay and talk have something important to tell you. Try to lisen to what they have to say and ask ? S.if you dont like what there saying then leave calmly.
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Re: Lucid Dream Arc or AP?
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Post # 12
Well im new here so just take it easy on me LOL.so here is my opinion and sorry for late reply and sorry i idnt read all of it im lazy at reading long post....well we are the same about wanting to lucid dream and i havnt have my first one buy this site really helped me http://www.squidoo.com/lucid-dreaming and i also created a potion to help me dream well u can create your own it just plain simple only the main ingredient is milk and also after you take your sleep drink full glass of water then sleep it will help you being concious when you are dreaming..........so at the very night iver read it when i was in my dream the feeling was so real but its not a lucid dream i think im starting to but yesterday i read it again then sleep when i slept and i was in a dream state there was this scene that i kissed a guy and the feeling was so very real i could feel his tounge and and it was simmilar to the site about lucid dreams that the common lucid dream scene is about sex........so thats it hope it helps and i think you will lucid dream in no time
cuz you already experienced one
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Re: Lucid Dream Arc or AP?
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Post # 13
This is Lucid Dreaming to me. Happens a lot to me specially flying dreams. When you where a kid, it was easier for you to think happy stuff. Now that you are older, it's harder for you to think happy because of all your experiences I guess. I just focus on positivities and not negative, cause if you do, all happenings would only be positive and not negative.
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Re: Lucid Dream Arc or AP?
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This is Lucid Dreaming to me. Happens a lot to me specially flying dreams. When you where a kid, it was easier for you to think happy stuff. Now that you are older, it's harder for you to think happy because of all your experiences I guess. I just focus on positivities and not negative, cause if you do, all happenings would only be positive and not negative.
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