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That's a really impressive experiment your doing startermage, I'd like to hear more about it. I've actually been able to telekinetically (if anyone has a better explanaion for this happening be my guest) move the glitter in my lava-type lamp. The glitter is suspended in a liquid and it reflects light. When I focus, I'm able to turn the glitter so that it stops reflecting light in my eyes. I know they aren't moving on their own because only the one I focus on moves and the lamp hasn't been plugged in for years, so none of the glitter ever moves.

AwakeTooLong, I like it that you play the devil's advocate in this conversation because you always point out the holes in our theories. However, I still think your wrong. Magic is, according to a theory my best friend thought up, not energy in itself, but a form of energy conversion. It is a force (I have no better term to describe it so bear with me) that we can manipulate to convert one form of energy into another, or at least just the psychic energy we possess into kinetic, thermal, and other forms of energy.
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I never meant to seem closed to other's thoughts or ideas or beliefs. I don't even think I have said you or anyone is wrong in their beliefs in my "posts this week".
I'm sorry if I came/come across that way, though.
If you can prove to me that what you have said is true (about moving the cube) then I'm not going to sit there and deny the facts. However, you have not; and seeing as how nearly all magical studies on the prospect of psycho-kinetics has not managed to yield evidence of consistent quality I'm going to lean towards the results that have been proven. Which is the unreliability of the previously mentioned studies themselves.
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Faithseeker, the holes in everyone's theories are there, he just makes them apparent. If he doesn't who will?

And Faith, i believe magic to be active on a more subtle plane of existence, not kinetic, thermal or anything of that sort. More like thoughts and emotions. But this is just my opinion of course.
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Re: levitation theory
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Post # 31
All energy is transitory. It does not fade away, it changes into something else. Any force, or energy, that is exerted will eventually become something else. That is not only magic, that is physics. Magics and physics have a great deal in common, Faithseeker. Understanding them both yields a lot.

As far as the experiment goes, well.. If you study those fields you'd know more than I about them. I haven't the slightest clue as to what actually occurred within your experiment. You are the one that conducted it and to be frank too little information about the methodology and the results have been shared to decide anything.

Maybe something did happen. *shrug*
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Talesin (and AwakeTooLong if you also interpreted it this way) I actually meant that Awake's skepticism was a good thing. Even though I disagree with him I really like that there is a logical, rational person making completely legitimate claims that I'm wrong. I'm glad to have someone like him on this topic because I am the kind of person who realizes that I may be wrong about something, and he makes sure to remind me.

Awake, I feel like this argument about whether or not magic can effect physical objects kinetically is going to go on forever. You draw your information from hard science while I am talking about theories, and that's all they are. I think my and startermage's theories are sound, and I'm interested in pursuing them. But we'll really never know for sure until science has proven it is possible. I say that we just agree to disagree and move on from this discussion. I have enjoyed our conversation greatly and look forward to the ones we may have in the future.
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i agree with faith's statment about science proving it and that we agree to disagree and as far as the experiment,i get in the room, attach the respirator to an air bottle,sit indian style, meditate and visualize for 30 minutes, then i make a psiball slowly over the next hour so i dont black out,again, then when i start to feel lightheaded, i send it at the clay ball. i find that if i make it for a longer time it moves the clay more than if i dont. this is how i do it every week if i can, but mostly it is
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every other week,
blessed be
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Re: levitation theory
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Well, it's certainly an interesting experiment. Perhaps the best, well-detailed example of such a thing provided on the forums (that I have seen).

Thank you for indulging my curiosity.
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Startermage, if you could record this on a video camera, you could become famous among Noetic scientists. This is an impressive experiment that I doubt many have done before. I would personally love to see the next book on Noetics to mention us magic users.
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once i find the money for a camera i will but in the meantime i will practice with something heavier like a full clay cube instead of hollowed out so i wont need to use a respirator because i doubt any household ac can move a full clay cube
blessed be
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