Blind leading the Blind.

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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
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Post # 9
Okay, WhiteRaven. Let's just agree to disagree, and please don't respond to anymore of my posts. You lost whatever respect I may have had for you when you supported the idea of quantity over quality to make the site popular.
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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
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Post # 10
White Rav3n Is one of the most respected witches on this site, and probably one of the best sources of information SOM has.

Also experience is a big part of anything, but yet magick gives me headaches, so no i have not experienced spells but i give information and advice on the subject sometimes.
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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
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Post # 11
Thank you, DarkSun, for providing the hammer to nail my point home. You respond with a personal comment, rather than a helpful one, and even state that you have no magickal experience.
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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 12
Stoney, I think I can explain what they meant.

The various crappy posts that exist in great quantity are useless in terms of actual use. But search engines pick up on them, scan them, pick up upon the keywords within them, and then go back to google, yahoo, etc. and say "Hey, this site has a lot of relevant content." So then anyone who types that in to a search engine can find SoM.

Honestly, I agree with you one hundred percent. But from the perspective of a developer, the huge quantities of content are great for getting attention for your site.
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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
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Post # 13
I was defending her, if that can be taken as a fault i don't know what's right.

Also it is on my profile that i have no experience in magick, year and a day study, you should know about that.
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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
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Post # 14
Il agree with ya there
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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
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Post # 15
Meh, information just comes out to my brain every time I try to join a discussion and some of them I barely or never had any firsthand knowledge, but with reviewing them (I always have this habit of reviewing my post 3-5 or more times, long or not) I always find in the end that the information I receive has a logical point in the end.

Well that maybe is one of the benefits if you have the ability to change your brainwaves from Beta to Alpha or deeper while searching for an answer to this and that, that way you're more exposed to the information sent to you by other beings, especially the ones like spirit guides or those who you befriended with, such is my case.
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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 16
I think the biggest problem of this site is that so many, who often know very little, claim to be able to teach! I try very hard NOT to teach! What I try to do is to "guide" the newcomers,especially children, away from the impossible! This is because I do not think anyone can really learn merely from books, or other reading matter.It really needs a personal teacher. One may read exactly how to cast a circle, but until one has actually seen it done, it will never really work. At least that is how I think of it.
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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
By: / Knowledgeable
Post # 17
I never said that quantity is better than quality. If I did I would love for you to quote my words that implied that.

What I said is that nothing will be able to stop people. By saying "C'est la vie" I meant that its going to happen whether we like it or not. This is a public forum. If we were able to control everything that was posted and make the threads perfect, it would no longer be a public forum. People have the right to post within the rules of conduct. I have given suggestions in a few of these threads including ways to better the forum, but that is all we can do. It is within the administrator's authority only to make such calls.

I don't agree with telling people to "shut up". It's rude. By telling people to remain quiet unless they are experienced, we would have a handful of people answering all questions and the activity of the board would dwindle until it became 100% inactive. I've seen good boards die, and it always happens because (1) Arguements and negativity disrupt the entire board and make it unpleasant for members and turn away possible new members (2) too few people post and it becomes "boring", causing more members to leave. One always leads to two. This board is coming to that breaking point.

Awake is also correct that more posts will generate more links from google to this site, causing more people to join, some of which may be experienced and promote the fruitation of the board's potential. But with such threads constantly deriding the board itself, the probability of experienced people joining is small. Which is why I keep my posts on such threads in an optimistic light.

Thank you Dark for defending me. You're sweet.

Stoney, truly you may respect me or not, that is your choice. It doesn't bother me either way. I am not here for the experienced members on the board, they have their ways set. I am here for the inexperienced members who are seeking answers--the ones you are telling to shut up. This is a place for learning and sharing. And if very few people post, nothing will be achieved.

I know that I'm not liked by everyone here. There may be many who dislike me or disagree with me. But you cannot please everyone in life, nor should anyone try to. I am myself, and I speak my mind. You can love me or hate me for it. Whatever the case may be, that is your right.

But I see boards in the perspective of an administrator/owner's eyes, whether it is my board or not, I know how it feels to be in their shoes. And I know very well that the administrator here cannot be pleased with the constant threads by members giving all the reasons why they think the site sucks and what should be done about it, what she should be doing, what she isn't doing, or how people should act. These thoughts should be directed in a pm toward the moderators and administrator. That is the professional and respectful way to handle such "complaints". The moderating staff is the only group that can make a change.

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Re: Blind leading the Blind.
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Post # 18
I have great respect for both Stoney and Raven, as different, yet equally effective teachers. I have spent some years accumulating experience as both a student and a teacher in a number of subjects.

In this experience, I have learned that sometimes it is of benefit in the learning process to be simply one step ahead of a student. Although this lacks the overview of the more accomplished, it does bring a freshness to the learning experience. The dialogue is on more of an equal playing field, and raises viewpoints and observations that might be lacking in a more advanced teacher. It is an arena of shared learning.

It is easy for a teacher to take for granted that which might seem very remote to a novice. One can have difficulty remembering what it was like to be without the wisdom they have today. Concept is hard to explain.

Personally, I thoroughly enjoy engaging with imaginative outlooks. Such questions lead me to question why I really believe something is true. Perhaps it no longer is. I like to be challenged into effectively explaining something to someone who is, in a sense, foreign to my assumptions. Explaining my subject furthers my understanding of it.

Of course I cringe at repeating that mermaids are fictional. However, although the experience makes me weary, it is a brand new thought to the student. Every student, however bizarre their questions might appear, deserves our respect. Sometimes it is the person who has only been learning for 6 weeks who delivers that respect :)
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