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The Abramelin Squares
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Post # 1
I was looking up something and came across The Abramelin Squares and it caught my attention and now I am curious would anyone who knows about The Abramelin Squares being willing to explain them to me and how they work ect I know it says to not do them unless trained Im just curious and want to learn
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Re: The Abramelin Squares
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 2
They are essentially seals that are used to gain control over a Demon, or a series of demons, to achieve specific magical goals. They're full use is generally discovered first through communing with an angel and then binding various hosts of demons to yourself in servitude. I lack the ability to read/write hebrew so I've only read english translations, however I believe the original squares would likely have been in hebrew which would empower them with the specific words which said to possess power through numerology and other kabalistic meaning.
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Re: The Abramelin Squares
By: Moderator / Adept
Post # 3
Abramelin Squares are highly dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. Unless you are trained (personally,not by reading) then leave them absolutely alone! For myself, I wouldn't go anywhere near them!
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Re: The Abramelin Squares
By: / Novice
Post # 4
Keep well clear of these, you have to take many months of solitude and prayer before you can use them.

People have taken short cuts and have experienced a real problem with magic following that, they are for dedicated & experienced practitioners only, I have worked with the Goetia and many other Grimoires and still don't feel comfortable enough to attempt the seals.

Some of the books out there are not completed or incorrect, the only book I believe to be correct is by Jason Pike, but I still would advise you to keep well clear.
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Re: The Abramelin Squares
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Post # 5
No that's fine I didn't want to touch them was just curious about them I don't "play" with demons/ spirits they are not something I want to control or conjure ect Thank you for the explanations though
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Re: The Abramelin Squares
By: Moderator / Knowledgeable
Post # 6
I would hazard to say that even the "correct" versions have likely lost some of the meaning behind the original language within which it was written.

A lot of these books describe in metaphors and such, and many of these metaphors appear clear cut but at the time, and within the native language, the metaphor could have been common slang or phrasing meaning something different.

One of the sad losses of trying to pass down such knowledge through the ages.
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Re: The Abramelin Squares
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Post # 7
The abramelin system is a very complicated process aimed at attaining "knowledge and conversation of your holy gaurduan angel" the whole process is a challenging 6 month long ritual. There are other easier ways of doing this. If you would like to pursue this path, I recommend the book magic that works, by ninevah shadrach. You can't use the squares untill you have met your HGA though. The seals themselves aren't dangerous. In fact, they're reputed to be useless. If you read the whole grimoire, you'll find your supposed to get your own squares given to you by the spirits. The ones in the book are the authors so I guess they only work for him.
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Re: The Abramelin Squares
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Post # 8
Attaining knowledge and conversation with your holy gaurduan angel ensures your success. Your HGA gives you the complete instructions on how to safely do it and is there to protect you. I don't have any expierience with the abremalin grimoires. I simply do not have the recourses or time. Your HGA gives you a specific set of squares that are personal to you which is why most experts agree that the squares in the book are useless since they are the authors and not yours. I have heard numerous stories of people opening the grimoire to the back and accidently summoning a spirit resulting in their death. This is pure crap. The squares are used in a similar way as the pentacles in the Key of Solomon. They are like a written command to the spirits.
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Re: The Abramelin Squares
By: / Novice
Post # 9
The seals are the equivelent of a phone number, they aren't individually given to 1 person. Nearly all the grimoires have been translated throughout time, the seals are copied and get lost in translation, thats how many are different, but I have used seals that thousands of others have and with good effect, so are you saying the seals in the Goetia don't work, if so how do you claim to be experienced in it?

I know people who have used the system, and had good results from the seals given in the book, no conversation with their HGA either.

Its not a load of crap people dying or becoming ill from dealing with demons without binding them, they can have a negative effect on you if you do not follow the instructions given in any book. I took this from your profile, talking about demons "They will overpower you ifypu are not mentally strong", so what is true your post or your profile?
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Re: The Abramelin Squares
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Post # 10
I'm sorry but I have never contradicted that statement anywhere. Obviously you have never read the grimoire or at the most only skimmed over it. Your HGA gives you a set of squares. If you had read my post, you will see that i was calling exagerated stories of the squares power crap. The pentacles in the key of Solomon are used to evoke a whole army of demons. Does this mean that if I open the book to the pentacles, an army of demons will appear? No, and a demon will not appear just by opening a copy of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage to the squares.
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