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Re: Is summoning demons bad?
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Post # 11
erm.. I'm a totall rookie in all of this.. But why dont you first try summoning angels or ghosts and leave the demons till you are more experienced.. As much as I know demons are very tricky I wouldn't start by summoning them... (btw what ever you do don't tell your family you will only make em worry)
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Re: Is summoning demons bad?
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Post # 12
You shouldnt really be trying to summon anything until your more experienced. and not so smart to summon angels they all have their own personalities and quirks just like demons do personally i like to work with demons over angels. Demons are so much easier to talk to.I suggest Bune
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Re: Is summoning demons bad?
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Post # 13
@ War10k -

This question has been asked before in regard to the Goetic entities. They are demons and demons are malign entities. Granted there are varying degrees of malign but you'll notice that in the summonings there are a great many self protections. such summonings are not to be undertaken lightly nor are they for novices. It is vitally important you have the proper equipment and training to work with these entities and even years of experience will not prepare you for all the tricks they are capable of pulling. All it takes is one misspoken agreement, one poorly worded phrase and you're done.

Your post leads me to believe that either you or your friend had a copy of the Lesser Key of Solomon, or looked up Goetic demons and decided on a whim to summon one. Contrary to popular belief such a haphazard summoning can be effective and it is extremely dangerous precisely because it lacks all the careful preparation of a properly prepared summoning. I notice no mention of any banishing ritual after your summoning which means you basically left a door open. My advice to you is to cleanse and banish the summoning area immediately as well as all your personal space. Make sure the rituals you use are properly done and prepared for. Once you decide to work inside a ritual paradigm you absolutely must adhere to the strictures of the ritual, no ifs ands or buts about it. I don't think you should work with the Key of Solomon at all. It's not really a book to just work with on whimsy. Try something more elementary and get more experience under your belt. Your post smacks of inexperience, but that's not a bad thing, I'd just like to see you alive and sane enough to progress in your studies and that means taking nice safe progressive steps.

I would like to say in retrospect that I have advocated the tagging of buildings and areas with goetic sigils. It should be noted however that that was in the name of experimentation and that such experiments were never intended to be carried out by novice practitioners.

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Re: Is summoning demons bad?
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Post # 14
well it is my personal belief that demons are fallen angels. Angels that defied God's will or wished to become more powerful than God. That does not make demons nessesarily evil, but it does make them dangerous. Humans are supposed to have free will, and are supposedly forgiven of their sins. However Demons are not. If you seek to contact forces not of this world, there are plenty of other spirits besides Demons. I would not reccomend summoning demons for two reasons. One, if you are a christian, it goes against your beliefs. Two, summoning a demon more powerful than yourself could wind up with your death.
Those are my personal views, you must decide for yourself
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Re: Is summoning demons bad?
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Post # 15
Raven don't say something you might regret.
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Re: Is summoning demons bad?
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Post # 16
I usually call the Goetia "entities" not demons. Facing and working with them does have it's benefits but, I do advise building up to that point. Practical and basic banishing and meditation are important for building this base. Knowing who you really are is also very important!

The purpose of goetic magic is dependent on the entity being summoned. The tasks of the conjured entities may vary from curing diseases to destroying a person's personality, love, or fame, all depending upon the intention of the one who summons. The temperament of the entities can vary from fawning and obedient to fierce and defiant.

Among the practice of goetic magic is the summoning of angels, a particular purpose is for one to act as a guardian angel. For every Goetic entity or prince there is a Shemhamphorasch for example for Vassago there is Sit.


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Re: Is summoning demons bad?
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Post # 17
I don't have sufficient knowledge to give insight onto whether demons in the bible are real or not, but I know this, angels can be malevolent, and demons aren't always evil.
But I know this, both races, the higher of the races would not bother with trying to attack humans, no gain anyway, so why would they waste their time? Remember, if ever summoning, remember to treat the deity with respect, YOU called upon them to help you, they are there for you on their free will, better yet, offer them something. You are not their boss, like a guest, you should never demand anything.
Why do people say the demons casted into their circles are always angry? Well, say if you were a deity, and you were called upon for help, then bound until you did their bidding, what would your reaction be? If it is calm, then I bow to you, you are respectable and very considerate. If it is a huge grudge (let alone a small grudge) then you need to meditate and reflect.
Violence creates more problems than it solves.
I have never heard of anyone cast an angel forcefully into their circle, which is why they don't have a bad reputation. Or maybe I just haven't heard enough.
They are different races, both have emotions and wisdom, humans have their stereotypes mainly cause of the Media (Disneyland =D), but please do not bring religion into this.
Stay safe and do your homework before ever attempting anything, never wander blindly.
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Re: Is summoning demons bad?
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Post # 18
Well strictly speaking if you're a Christian inacting any ritual that isn't ascribed to by the flavor of the Christianity you happen to practice then you're defying the dogma of Christianity. I don't think it is possible to willingly go against your beliefs. If you profess to be Christian and yet summon demons then your actions are anathema to your professed beliefs.

And it seems to me that people work with demons for the sake that they are the first energies that come to the Magi and will show that the intent is some what good.

Working with the higher energies and frequencies of the Angels takes a more disciplined approach with a deeper desire and a more focused intent.

There are those that would rather take the quick ride to the final destination than make the full journey, the journey first of self realization of what we are and who we are trying to become .

It is like paying the 100 dollars for enlightenment for the quick fix.
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Re: Is summoning demons bad?
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Post # 19
Let's stay out of Christianity because there are so few of those on this site who have the sufficient knowledge to talk about it.
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